NWR General Football Thread

I don't normally pay attention to the football-press axis, but are we looking here at:
  • The Telegraph not wanting an English manager
  • The Telegraph simply not wanting Allardyce
  • The Telegraph not liking the FA and taking the opportunity to give it a kicking
  • The Telegraph not wanting the English team to do well
  • The Telegraph genuinely outraged at corruption in football
  • The Telegraph wanting to sell papers
and I suppose repeat ad infinitum ad nauseum for all the other papers.

I understand the last and sympathise with the penultimate

The latter I'm sure is true, but the penultimate is very doubtful. They set out to snare him with a sting, a pretty self-centred act. They'll be feeling smug now. Meanwhile the list of managers brave, stupid or naïve enough to take on the job dwindles inexorably towards:
- Gareth Southgate
- Stuart Pearce
- Gary Neville

Personally I'd rather someone good took on the role, but the good ones are sensible enough to realise that the job is comparable to being a fish in a barrel at the NRA convention.
 
There was an interesting piece in the Guardian not exactly defending Allardyce but questioning the sacking - the most interesting part to me was how The Telegraph buried a part where Sam totally rejects the notion of paying off people/money under the table and berates the friend he is purported to be helping about the subject.

A counter view if nothing else even if ultimately I agree with the concept of the England manager having to be whiter than the rest.
 
When they appoint the next England manager, the FA should appoint some technically experienced minders to provide the manager with 24/7 protection outside the home against the meeja and, of course, the manager himself.
 
Another possible reading
Found guilty to have shown that the rules don't work while the FA does not intend to do anything about them.
Another shoot the messenger... (unless they take action to address the real issue...of course, holding my breath)
 
When they appoint the next England manager, the FA should appoint some technically experienced minders to provide the manager with 24/7 protection outside the home against the meeja and, of course, the manager himself.

I also read that the FA had recently laid off the people who provided support and guidance for the scrutiny/media circus around the job.
 
Has anyone watched any football this season? I think it's been quite good (apart from England, obviously) - City, Arsenal and Liverpool particularly pleasing on the eye, though suspect there could be goals at both ends for all this year.
 
I'm loving it so far as a lil ol Huddersfield Town supporter at the top of the Championship.

An owner who made season tickets £179 to fill the stadium adds to my delight #notallaboutmoney
 
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You really have to be a great age to remember it otherwise.
I remember in the early '50s they finished 3rd behind WBA and Wolves in the First Division.
I still have my deafening air raid warden's rattle vigorously used then at Leeds Road somewhere ... :D

Oi, less of the great age please! Huddersfield were a first division side when I got my first Soccer Stars sticker album. And that was not in the 50s I hasten to add!
 
So, what is the betting FA are looking for another chump in the job? Joe Royle? Even better, will they ask Nigel Pearson? Never was a fan of big sam but was willing to give him a chance, but he proved to be a naive chump. How you can get paid off when sacked for misconduct?
 
Even pre-Hodgson it was clear the cupboard was pretty bare, the fact that Allardyce got the job was a sign of a lack of (English) candidates. I wish Southgate the best, just wonder if he's a bit short of experience at senior level.
 
Huddersfield Town

Seconded. UTT. Think they were first division when I was born ('71). To remember them when they were probably the best team in the world (hmmm), you'd have to be pretty much dead.

They won the first of three consecutive league championships on goal average, despite Cardiff having scored more goals and having a better goal difference. Man City 11th, Liverpool 12th, Arsenal 19th, Chelsea relegated to join Man U, 14th in Div 2.

Team: Billy, Ted, Ned, Harry, Roy, Albert, Norman, David, Sam, Billy, Tom, Billy, George, Billy, Joe, George, George, Ernie, Clem, Charlie. But even then, a couple of foreigners: Scots. Those were the days.

Clem Stephenson appears to have been such a character that his son, Clem, who had a son called Clem, called his dog Clem.

Very rare for me to get so engaged with a football thread. As you were.
 
There was another cracking story while I remember about it being so rammed at Leeds Road in the early days that one kid jumped up to celebrate a goal and didn't touch the ground again until full time.
I can say the situation was often not that far off in the '50s.
When a spectator, no matter how far back, had "a nasty turn" he would be passed down to the front at head height feet first, to the waiting St John's.

There were always Scots in the team, Denis Law being the most prominent in my time; Willie Davy and McHale also come to mind. And Shankly managed there, of course.
Glazzard, Metcalfe, McGarry played for England and Ray Wilson of World Cup '66 fame,
 
Hasn't quite been the same in my time David, though I did once sit behind a completely lashed Frank Worthington on the bus back into town. As Alex says, things seem to be on the up under an ambitious manager and a sympathetc boardroom - if only England could say the same!
 
The Leicester City team of that era were all quite big drinkers IIRC. Len Glover owned a pub in the village next to where my parents lived, so a good few of them were seen roundabouts.

Apparently Jamie Vardy doesn't drink alcohol. I think he could do with a drink to fire him up this season.
 
Oi, less of the great age please! Huddersfield were a first division side when I got my first Soccer Stars sticker album. And that was not in the 50s I hasten to add!

At university my bottom was pinched by a woman from Huddersfield. I'd ever heard of it. But she became a librarian. Perhaps she married one of you. Or was your mother.
 
The latter I'm sure is true, but the penultimate is very doubtful. They set out to snare him with a sting, a pretty self-centred act. They'll be feeling smug now. Meanwhile the list of managers brave, stupid or naïve enough to take on the job dwindles inexorably towards:
- Gareth Southgate
- Stuart Pearce
- Gary Neville

Personally I'd rather someone good took on the role, but the good ones are sensible enough to realise that the job is comparable to being a fish in a barrel at the NRA convention.

Benitez.

His home is in The Wirral and he has won international cups. Languishing in the second division at the moment, he will take it for the glory.
 
I'm amazed by the number of "I feel sorry for Sam" quotes I've seen. Sure, the Telegraph did what they did to sell more papers, but presumably also because they knew Allardyce was corrupt. All he had to do was say he wasn't interested.
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I doubt it was a fishing expedition. They had information and they wanted evidence. The FA know from the Telegraph a lot more than we do.

I wonder how long 'Arry (and Rosie the Dog) would have lasted in the job ...
 
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