2019 Burgundy

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Is the Kelley article free to read? Is there anything in the offers that tempts you?

I (and a few others on here) joined the Stannary/Jasper presentation about the 2019 vintage last week and there were plenty of positive noises. The style of both colours sounds great for my palate; whites were compared to a hybrid of 2014 and 2015, for example. Sadly quantities are low and prices will be flat or rise - no Bordeaux-style pandemic reduction.
 
Is the Kelley article free to read? Is there anything in the offers that tempts you?

I (and a few others on here) joined the Stannary/Jasper presentation about the 2019 vintage last week and there were plenty of positive noises. The style of both colours sounds great for my palate; whites were compared to a hybrid of 2014 and 2015, for example. Sadly quantities are low and prices will be flat or rise - no Bordeaux-style pandemic reduction.

It is free indeed, on the F+R Vintage report, not long, only a page or so but interesting. I would post the link however i'm not sure if that is against Forum rules.

Henri Boillot's 2019's were the first offer i received, only his Rugiens, Clos Blanc (new domain holding in Pommard) and Clos Mouchere (Which i think is now sold out) tempted me but you can still buy the 2018's for slightly less.

Did they state any vintage comparisons for 2019 Reds?
 
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Thanks guys. Some other articles on the F&R site too. I've never bought anything from them...

I think they weren't able to say what vintage 2019 does resemble, but they did say it is fresher than 2018.

They also commented that 2020 is potentially looking better than 2019 for whites, but I think less so for reds - obviously very early though.
 
Thanks guys. Some other articles on the F&R site too. I've never bought anything from them...

I think they weren't able to say what vintage 2019 does resemble, but they did say it is fresher than 2018.

They also commented that 2020 is potentially looking better than 2019 for whites, but I think less so for reds - obviously very early though.

i've bought a few things and have had no issues. If you have instagram, William Kelley uploaded a good video talking about the vintage.

Such a shame that EP tastings most likely won't happen, or certainly not in the same manner as previous ones.
 
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I am considering getting some Droin Chablis, several of which are already available here. Has anyone tried any? I am presuming they should be better than 2019

Did you typo? Neal Martin wasn't able to review Droin 2019 yet, but he did say he thinks they'll be better than their 2018s, which he found underwhelming.
 
Is the Kelley article free to read? Is there anything in the offers that tempts you?

I (and a few others on here) joined the Stannary/Jasper presentation about the 2019 vintage last week and there were plenty of positive noises. The style of both colours sounds great for my palate; whites were compared to a hybrid of 2014 and 2015, for example. Sadly quantities are low and prices will be flat or rise - no Bordeaux-style pandemic reduction.

i enjoyed the zoom call, most useful message I took from that was if you like ethereal red burgundy stock up on 2017s...
 
Riper than 2018 perhaps?

Certainly a vintage I’d personally be very wary of buying anything from without tasting first, if for no other reason as to get a general impression of it.

..... and as it seems very unlikely that there will be many if any e-p tastings this season - well no big “free for alls” certainly - I suspect I will buy nothing.
 
Not sure the Burgundian pricing model accommodates big price decreases a la Bdx 2019 and neither do I really see the growers having an incentive to go down that route. If you have significant price drops I think you've also got to open the door to the converse so be careful what you wish for!

Of the prices I've seen so far, increases are notable for their sobriety. Many have stayed flat YoY and most are in the 3-7% range. I've seen one domaine clearly trying to re-position a particular cru, which also saw massively decreased production in 2019, and that's had an 18% hike - but it's one wine in the range and I reckon it'll still sell.
 
Matthew, the converse is already happening! C'est la vie. One day I'll stop buying as happened with Bordeaux, to which I have not returned.
Growers contort themselves to justify the current pricing model but it's expletive deleted.
Saying that one producer has marginally cut prices for their 2019. I do my bit for fellow consumers when visiting vineyards by way of demonstrative but gentle head-shaking, lip-pursing, sharp intakes of breathe etc. :) They mainly smile as the price list is passed across with no signs of improvement.
 
2018 is more typical Droin style than 2019 where he picked later than he usually does. I thought his 2018s were extremely good
That is reassuring Jasper. I tried a couple of the 18s and wasn't blown away, but I don't have a lot of experience with Chablis so I am hoping they just need time.

I was surprised how quickly the 19s arrived here. Without seeing any reviews of them so far, and knowing 19 was a lower yielding vintage and often better regarded than 18, I was assuming they would be worth purchasing.

Interesting that he picked later in 19. Usually lower yields mean earlier picking because they ripen earlier.
 
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