Aligoté

[Mark Carrington]

I’ve tried the Haisma and IMVHO it is stonkingly good. I have joked with Mark that his Aligoté is his best wine though I’m not sure he appreciated my humour. Obviously it isn’t but it was intended as a compliment nevertheless.

That explains why Mr. Haisma refused to produce an Aligoté in 2017.

 

[Mark Carrington]

Nothing as extravagant DC; a 6 pack of Pickled Onion Space Raiders sealed the deal!

Mrs C took along some of her brioche bread ‘n’ pudding & did we get any Chevalier or Bèze? Not a bloody drop.

 

[Oli North]

A big favourite for me, tho I'd contend it needs both old vines and old oak. Most of my favourite producers already mentioned here.

Dave- I have a sixer of Andrew and Emma's (which is properly wonderful), will bring you one next time we're together. They're also doing some of it with skin contact which I think has just been bottled.

A good article here from Alice F: http://www.alicefeiring.com/files/aligotés-return.pdf

 

[David Crossley]

A big favourite for me, tho I'd contend it needs both old vines and old oak. Most of my favourite producers already mentioned here.

Dave- I have a sixer of Andrew and Emma's (which is properly wonderful), will bring you one next time we're together. They're also doing some of it with skin contact which I think has just been bottled.

A good article here from Alice F: http://www.alicefeiring.com/files/aligotés-return.pdf

Thanks Oli. The skin contact sounds interesting. Bit of texture with the acidity sounds a way to go.

 

[David Crossley]

A big favourite for me, tho I'd contend it needs both old vines and old oak. Most of my favourite producers already mentioned here.

Dave- I have a sixer of Andrew and Emma's (which is properly wonderful), will bring you one next time we're together. They're also doing some of it with skin contact which I think has just been bottled.

A good article here from Alice F: http://www.alicefeiring.com/files/aligotés-return.pdf

I was a WoFW subbie back then (withdrew after 53) and I do vaguely recall that article. I will have to pull it down and read it again. Thanks.

 

[Mark Priestley]

Got to love getting deliveries of wine!

 

[Jim Agar]

I’ll raise you a...
Ok not an aligoté but porn nonetheless.

 

[Mark Priestley]

Jim: Think I'm going to have to report you to Tom for this; only Gote Porn allowed on this thread!

 

[David Mansfield]

Benoit Ente”s wines have nowhere near the class of Arnaud”s.

Very interesting that the latter acquired the parcel of Champ gain in Puligny . Yet to taste it but the price has already multiplied several times.....

Thread drift. I apologise. Just not an Aligoté fan I’m afraid.

 

[Mark Carrington]

Benoit Ente”s wines have nowhere near the class of Arnaud”s.
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On the plus side, I can afford Benoit's wines.

 

[Claude Kolm]

Many producers I visit in Burgundy don't bother to show their Aligoté (as is the case in reds with Passetoutgrains and even sometimes with Bourgogne Pinot Noir).

More sepcifically, when visiting Chevillon in Nuits, I only occasionally see a white (usually already in bottle), and I've never seen the Bourgogne-Aligoté. But I came across a bottle of the 2015 in Kermit Lynch's store in Berkeley and it's really one of the best and most classic versions of the grape that I've experienced: stoniness playing against the fruit in a body that is medium-weight but light on the palate; good acidity but also some richness of texture.

 

[Mark Priestley]

Many producers I visit in Burgundy don't bother to show their Aligoté (as is the case in reds with Passetoutgrains and even sometimes with Bourgogne Pinot Noir).

Any thoughts on why that is the case Claude?

 

[Thom Blach]

Not Claude, but I don't think most CdeN producers have generally regarded their aligotes as anything other than functional.

 

[Claude Kolm]

Any thoughts on why that is the case Claude?

In addition to what Tom says above, it's possible that they feel that (1) there's already enough wine to taste, (2) the wine has been recently bottled and they don't want to open it, (3) the wine is intended mostly for consumption by the vigneron and friends or at least is not for the export market for the most part, (4) readers of specialized wine publications are interested only in "fine wine" (i.e., Pinot Noir and Chardonnay),* etc.

* I've been told by some vignerons that at least one of my colleagues (who is quite well-known) will not deign to taste anything but premier and grand cru, and I also know of individuals guided by importers who take the same position.

 

[Claude Kolm]

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[David Crossley]

In addition to what Tom says above, it's possible that they feel that (1) there's already enough wine to taste, (2) the wine has been recently bottled and they don't want to open it, (3) the wine is intended mostly for consumption by the vigneron and friends or at least is not for the export market for the most part, (4) readers of specialized wine publications are interested only in "fine wine" (i.e., Pinot Noir and Chardonnay),* etc.

* I've been told by some vignerons that at least one of my colleagues (who is quite well-known) will not deign to taste anything but premier and grand cru, and I also know of individuals guided by importers who take the same position.

I like people like that. Let others pay a fortune for the top wines whilst we enjoy great wine for a bit less. Remember that Roulot Monthélie we drank a couple of years ago!

 

[Robbie Ward]

The Anne Boisson Aligote 2014 that I had during the week was stunning. Lovely mix of fresh zippy citrus with an underlying richness. Never had it before but was very impressed. Anyone else tried this?

 

[Michael Warner]

2015 Gachot-Monot Aligote last night - lovely mineral/earthy character along with zippy acidity... delish ! Unfortunately creeping up in price like all Burgundy ....now 5€65

 

[Mark Carrington]

2015 Gachot-Monot Aligote last night - lovely mineral/earthy character along with zippy acidity... delish ! Unfortunately creeping up in price like all Burgundy ....now 5€65

I think that’s how much I paid for 2017 (in CT at a fiver). The amount was certainly less than the cost paid for a Ponsot Monts Luisants.

 

[simon beatty]

In addition to what Tom says above, it's possible that they feel that (1) there's already enough wine to taste, (2) the wine has been recently bottled and they don't want to open it, (3) the wine is intended mostly for consumption by the vigneron and friends or at least is not for the export market for the most part, (4) readers of specialized wine publications are interested only in "fine wine" (i.e., Pinot Noir and Chardonnay),* etc.

* I've been told by some vignerons that at least one of my colleagues (who is quite well-known) will not deign to taste anything but premier and grand cru, and I also know of individuals guided by importers who take the same position.

During my days of tasting in Burgundy many producers were quite keen for us to taste their "lesser" wines, including Aligote, which we were only too happy to taste. The big problem apparently was, at the time anyway, it was impossible to sell.

 

[Claude Kolm]

During my days of tasting in Burgundy many producers were quite keen for us to taste their "lesser" wines, including Aligote, which we were only too happy to taste. The big problem apparently was, at the time anyway, it was impossible to sell.

In my experience, UK individual customers generally are more likely to take lesser wines and less fashionable vintages than are American individual customers.

 

[Neil Holland]

Any notes on the Grappin Aligoté? Am yet to open my bottle.

 

[Mark Carrington]

Any notes on the Grappin Aligoté? Am yet to open my bottle.

Hurry up, Neil.

 

[Neil Holland]

Paging Mr Crossley... He now has multiple bottles so should take one for the team!

 

[Will Taylor]

View attachment 4871 I’ll raise you a...
Ok not an aligoté but porn nonetheless.

Jim - have you opened one yet, i've got a some of this and the 14 Petit Chablis in storage and thinking it might be time to get them out?