- Location
- Winchester, UK
As the climate change debate in Jasper's weather thread doesn't appear to be abating, I thought I would go ahead and start a dedicated thread where it can continue.
Your statements:
1. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Agreed. So is water vapour, the main constituent of clouds. No models an handke this important climate forcing agent.
2. Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels are currently higher than they've been for hundreds of thousands or millions of years (I think the figure is actually about 3.6 million). From the fact that atmospheric CO2 is higher than pre-industrial levels no conclusion can be drawn about global climate trends. There is good evidence from ice cores etc that CO2 levels follow rather than precede T changes, so the direction of causality is in doubt.
The data shows that i) climate is cyclical, not linear and ii) that climate trends mimic solar activity rather than CO2.
Is anyone serious predicting human extinction from global warming?I guess when the planet survives and progressively humans die out the answer will become obvious to all the naysayers albeit a tad late.
James Lovelock and the Gaia hypothesis remains a worthwhile read never mind more up to date scientific evidence.
Yes I would over the next few millennia, maybe lessIs anyone serious predicting human extinction from global warming?
Listening to the news here every morning resembles something from an apocalyptical science fiction film. It is simply absolutely terrifying. I can't imagine trying to function in a physical temperature of 49C. It is extremely dangerous and sadly a spike in deaths is being reported.
Is not something I’d like to see in the UK at any point. Hope you are in a cooler spot.Listening to the news here every morning resembles something from an apocalyptical science fiction film. It is simply absolutely frightening. I can't imagine trying to function in a physical temperature of 49C. It is extremely dangerous and sadly a spike in deaths is being reported.
it really is the most tiresome subject. It’s like the coming and going of the ice age.........it happened
lets get on with our lives for goodness sake.
What an utterly bizarre comment. How exactly are the people dying in the current heatwave meant to 'get on with their lives'? And what about those living areas where rising sea levels are making 'getting on with their lives' impossible? The farmers unable to grow crops because of changes in rainfall patterns or, yes, heatwaves? I could go on and on and on, but I guess that would just be being tiresome.it really is the most tiresome subject. It’s like the coming and going of the ice age.........it happened
lets get on with our lives for goodness sake.
That first sentence sums up social media to a T!David,
Carl "Young" (hoops Jung) wrote
"Thinking is difficult, that's why most people judge!"
and also
"Everything that irritates us about others can lead to an understanding of ourselves"
I hope this helps.
You may also break the thermometer...
If? And no, global depopulation isn't the only solution. De-carbonisation and afforestation would actually stabilise the situation and, it we did a good enough job of it, begin to fix it.If climate change is man made then the only real solution is global depopulation - everything else is fantasy.
All you'd need is a deadly virus... ;-)
And this one could also have solved the pensions crisis...If climate change is man made then the only real solution is global depopulation - everything else is fantasy.
All you'd need is a deadly virus... ;-)