NWR EV thread (was "Anyone buying a Tesla Model 3 (or any BEV) ?")

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Odd Rydland

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Norway
The tesla M3s seems exceedingly expensive compared to sale prices in Norway where they are en Kona/ID3 territory broadly speaking (or just slightly above).
 
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Simon Grant

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Berkshire
Alex Lake said:
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Pre-lockdown I had an i3 from them for a year or so and was happy with the service / vehicle. The flexibility of being able to hand it back when lockdown was upon us was good too. Haven’t felt the need for an additional car alongside the main family one since, but I’d certainly consider them again if I wanted a shorter-term solution.
 
Alex Lake

Alex Lake

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Deep South of Cambridgeshire
Odd Rydland said:
The tesla M3s seems exceedingly expensive compared to sale prices in Norway where they are en Kona/ID3 territory broadly speaking (or just slightly above).
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Really?! Wow. I know that they're well above the threshold for government grant here. So how much is the standard RWD M3 there (that's £42,990 over here)?

Edit - a simple reading of the Tesla site suggests £30,547.93! Does that include a big grant? I've heard that Norway may waive VAT on EVs. But even so, the price over here without VAT is £35,825.

Edit2 - I see that we also have to pay a 10% import duty (which you don't). So knocking that off would make it £32,568 - still not quite as cheap... perhaps there's more of a competitive pricing.
 
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Odd Rydland

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Alex Lake said:
Really?! Wow. I know that they're well above the threshold for government grant here. So how much is the standard RWD M3 there (that's £42,990 over here)?

Edit - a simple reading of the Tesla site suggests £30,547.93! Does that include a big grant? I've heard that Norway may waive VAT on EVs. But even so, the price over here without VAT is £35,825.

Edit2 - I see that we also have to pay a 10% import duty (which you don't). So knocking that off would make it £32,568 - still not quite as cheap... perhaps there's more of a competitive pricing.
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We've waived VAT and CO2 fees. I just noticed that the lease prices for the M3 seemed to be way over the ID3 and ID4 leases, while the sale prices doesn't seem that different in Norway.

M3 SR Plus, basic price 400.000 NOK
M3 LR 450.000, performance 540.000
ID3 Pro S 370.000 (+packages)
ID4 GTX 486.000 (+packages)
 
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Odd Rydland

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Norway
We are testing in Norway as well, AFAIK currently only on one or two supercharger stations. The charging network is key to the success of EVs.

One problem (besides lack of standards and varying payment solutions, at least in Norway) is that when most local traffic charges at home (in Norway they mainly do), it will be difficult to provide economics for charging stations for those who don't, and for those who travel longer distances. I suspect that Tesla has integrated those costs in the overhead of their vehicles. Smart, and necessary, move for an innovator. The first major CD shops in Norway sold CD players at deeply discounted prices.
 
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Alex Lake

Alex Lake

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Deep South of Cambridgeshire
You guys can get NIOs as well now - the ET5/ET7 look awesome to me.

After a depressing trip to York at the weekend, I concluded that the UK is nowhere near ready for EV usage, especially if not Teslas. The problem is that there are quite a few around, but the non-Tesla chargers can be very thin on the ground, are generally very slow and often don't work. It strikes me that the companies that run these networks are really in the business of milking grants, and have no interest in operating a functioning service (fees from selling electricity are boring).

I had hoped to get a good top up at the Premier Inn in Pontefract (which I have used before) but 2 other cars (Ioniq and iPace) had beaten us to them. Mind you, it was a somewhat Pyrrhic victory, as the unit had conked out - as is its wont.

York University main campus has precisely zero EV chargers, with a pair in Campus East (neither of which have worked in the last few weeks). The nearby park and ride chargers are operated by BP, who (surprise, surprise!) seem to relish pissing off those who don't buy petrol. I did make it to the Instavolt chargers at McDonalds and just beat a Hyundai to the last available charger where I waited while it trickle-charged at 37kW. I was under the impression that the Instavolt/McDonalds partnership was going to largely consist of 100kW units, but that was just the press release! All in all a very sorry story over here.
 
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Russell Faulkner

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Bordeaux
Bordeaux has just started taking payment at the 20-30 public 40kW chargers. Previously they were free.

But the fee is still less than that of parking on the street so it’s a handy way to get a boost while running errands in the city.

Most large out of town shops (B+Q, IKEA types as well as supermarkets offer 2-3 free 40kW chargers.
 
Jason Michelle

Jason Michelle

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Berkshire
We have had our Enyaq since early December and I have to say we have been pleasantly surprised at the ease in which we have been able to charge the car when away from home, both on the motorway and in local towns.

On the motorway we have found the Gridserve rapid chargers located at the Moto service stations to be excellent.

In town centres we have found no issues finding available chargers, whether at Supermarkets or otherwise.

We are using Zap Map to plan trips and it’s always wise to have done your homework and have a plan B.

P.S… Loving the practicality of the Enyaq! :cool:.
 
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