NWR Family size electric cars

Sadly we cannot charge at home. The Merc is much cheaper to insure but more costly to run (though it would be around 45-50mpg). Looking at local charging costs the most local ones are in car parks where you also have to pay. There would be savings but not as much as I had hoped. I think it’s just a bit early for us. As we’d like a nice car that’s suitable as a GT. The electric ones we can afford are just not really that kind of car. Hopefully in a few years they will be :)
Yes once I quickly priced that up and saw it’s £350 on a personal lease it looks expensive though it’s just the cost of a £32-£34K car. Any new car would cost that but they are priced rather high for what they are. Essentially I pay that sort of value for a bigger, nicer car with insurance and everything included due to salary sacrifice. We also had a charger fitted at home for free which uses very cheap, off peak electricity. That for me is how it really makes sense. I think the company car route will also help sales and drive the prices lower as more adopt. maybe the second hand market in a few years might be the route and buy outright,
if I was looking right now for a main family car I would probably buy a 2-4 year old high spec petrol as diesel is the devil :)
My other cars are petrol.
 
Yes once I quickly priced that up and saw it’s £350 on a personal lease it looks expensive though it’s just the cost of a £32-£34K car. Any new car would cost that but they are priced rather high for what they are. Essentially I pay that sort of value for a bigger, nicer car with insurance and everything included due to salary sacrifice. We also had a charger fitted at home for free which uses very cheap, off peak electricity. That for me is how it really makes sense. I think the company car route will also help sales and drive the prices lower as more adopt. maybe the second hand market in a few years might be the route and buy outright,
if I was looking right now for a main family car I would probably buy a 2-4 year old high spec petrol as diesel is the devil :)
My other cars are petrol.
Maybe I need to set up a company. Sounds like a much better deal.
 
The issue with EV affordability at the moment is that there Is no secondary market at almost any level. It has to start somewhere and new EV‘s need to be sold to create that create a secondary market for £20k EVs in a few years and £10k EVs a few years after that. It’s not realistic to expect affordable second hand EVs for a grand right now. It will take time for the secondary market to reach everyone’s budget. In the meantime ICE is still the option.
 
Location
UK
The issue with EV affordability at the moment is that there Is no secondary market at almost any level. It has to start somewhere and new EV‘s need to be sold to create that create a secondary market for £20k EVs in a few years and £10k EVs a few years after that. It’s not realistic to expect affordable second hand EVs for a grand right now. It will take time for the secondary market to reach everyone’s budget. In the meantime ICE is still the option.

There's little point buying second hand when a) the technology is improving so quickly and once the major car manufacturers bring to bear the full weight of mass production new prices will come down; and b) batteries deteriorate irreversibly (in a more fundamental way than ICE). To me that means if you want one, lease
 
There's little point buying second hand when a) the technology is improving so quickly and once the major car manufacturers bring to bear the full weight of mass production new prices will come down; and b) batteries deteriorate irreversibly (in a more fundamental way than ICE). To me that means if you want one, lease
True - but when the large (ish) number of new leases start to expire over the next year or two, those cars will have to go somewhere. Typically ex-fleet and ex-lease cars are sold at auction. If they are seen as relatively undesirable for the reasons you mention, there could be some cracking bargains to be had.
 
Location
UK
True - but when the large (ish) number of new leases start to expire over the next year or two, those cars will have to go somewhere. Typically ex-fleet and ex-lease cars are sold at auction. If they are seen as relatively undesirable for the reasons you mention, there could be some cracking bargains to be had.

Sure. Like everything, it depends on the price. But with an old battery depleting an already limited range, I would be wary of them being cheap for a reason... Caveat emptor
 
The Tesla battery guarantee for my model is 8 year, 150000 miles - retention of range >70% of original maximum range.
But how enforceable is that? Is it transferable to a different owner? Are their limits on driving style et al? I'd have thought they could just say you've driven the car the wrong way and so you've degraded it more.
 
The Tesla battery guarantee for my model is 8 year, 150000 miles - retention of range >70% of original maximum range.

Plenty of taxis of all models with over 200k km of range still with 90+ retention. It's not really an issue for Teslas.

Also, of course it depends where you live but we are in a mid terrace with no home charging and its really not an issue for us.
 
That's the problem - I'd do about 5k miles on a return trip to Provence. That's only 3 weeks of a year, plus another 12k probably on the usual day to day stuff. Obviously that was a pre-covid annual mileage.
 
Not sure why they can't install some 7kW AC chargers, but....

View attachment 21462

I guess you could make it up... "A Cop26 spokesperson said where generators were required for charging the vehicles, they would run on hydrogenated vegetable oil - recycled cooking oil - derived from waste products."

 
I guess you could make it up... "A Cop26 spokesperson said where generators were required for charging the vehicles, they would run on hydrogenated vegetable oil - recycled cooking oil - derived from waste products."

So not quite as bad, but still not really setting a good example.
 
Top