Henriot Champagne Advice

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Thoroughly decent tipple. If I had to criticise it in anyway, wee touch too much fruit.

Interesting what Steven said about maturity, the code ended with 19 so guessing a new release. But it did have a mature feel to it.

Interesting Sean, thanks for the feedback. Doesn't quite square with Steve's observation that the dosage will take time to blend in - unless it's over-dosed for the age of the underlying wine?
 
As with most things vinous it comes down to personal taste and preference. I probably drink Champagne seldom enough to properly notice the difference dosage causes between bottles. I also believe the bubbles prevents me from analysing a Champagne as forensically as I would a still wine. The other thing would be what went into the blend and, with the Souverain it is 50% Chardonnay and 45% PN and 5% PM. I find PN adds a richness to a champagne, especially when compared to a BdeB. Could that be mistaken as extra dosage or is it much easier to tell where the richness/sweetness comes from?
However, I see the Souverain has a dosage of 'less than' 8g/l, which is the same as the multi-variety Champagnes I'm used to drinking from Gaston Chiquet, so I'd be surprised if I found the Henriot a tad sweet. However, on checking, even Gaston Chiquet's BdeB has 6g/l and I find that very dry (but not as dry as some of Francis Boulard's zero dosage Champagnes).
 
As with most things vinous it comes down to personal taste and preference. I probably drink Champagne seldom enough to properly notice the difference dosage causes between bottles. I also believe the bubbles prevents me from analysing a Champagne as forensically as I would a still wine. The other thing would be what went into the blend and, with the Souverain it is 50% Chardonnay and 45% PN and 5% PM. I find PN adds a richness to a champagne, especially when compared to a BdeB. Could that be mistaken as extra dosage or is it much easier to tell where the richness/sweetness comes from?
However, I see the Souverain has a dosage of 'less than' 8g/l, which is the same as the multi-variety Champagnes I'm used to drinking from Gaston Chiquet, so I'd be surprised if I found the Henriot a tad sweet. However, on checking, even Gaston Chiquet's BdeB has 6g/l and I find that very dry (but not as dry as some of Francis Boulard's zero dosage Champagnes).

IMO, the dosage is all about the balance. If the winemaker can balance the final cuvee with lesser amount of sugar, that might tell a few important things which I tend to appreciate.
- Picking the grapes at the optimal maturity (acidity, sugar, phenolics). Too acidic wines might ask for more sugar to compensate.
- Longer aging sur lee, as often the tendency is to put less dosage on late disgorged cuvees. For example Bollinger R.D. is extra brut vs Le Grande Anne which receives a more generous dosage, even that's the same wine. Also Vazart-Coquart with Brut - Extra Brut - Brut Zero, all same wines with only difference in aging sur lee.
- Sugar masks imperfections. Less sugar, less the winemaker can hide.
 
Agreed Stas, balance is so important! But don't that perception of dosage is not linear, sometimes 4g/l can taste sweeter than 8g/l in the same Champagne, and older wines with a more oxidative nature are likely to receive a higher dosage (if the producer does not wish an oxidative style).
 
Agreed Stas, balance is so important! But don't that perception of dosage is not linear, sometimes 4g/l can taste sweeter than 8g/l in the same Champagne, and older wines with a more oxidative nature are likely to receive a higher dosage (if the producer does not wish an oxidative style).

I believe that the perception of dosage is individual and I agree it might not be linear.
I often get stump with RDJ. Cedrics wines are always brut nature, but some feel even off-dry.
 
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That's it arrived today - not bad considering I ordered it on Monday. Unfortunately the delivery man arrived just as Mrs A got home from work, so I had to 'fess up :eek:

Can anyone decipher the code? Does 1908 indicate a disgorgement date of August 2019?

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That's it arrived today - not bad considering I ordered it on Monday. Unfortunately the delivery man arrived just as Mrs A got home from work, so I had to 'fess up :eek:

Can anyone decipher the code? Does 1908 indicate a disgorgement date of August 2019?

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Paul, many producers use the first two digits as the year of shipping and the next three digits as the day of the year.
This looks as though it may be a 2015/6 based wine.
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Tyson Stelzer says that for Henriot the last 4 digits of the lot code are the month and year of dg.
So Nov 2018 in this case which would tie up with shipping and labelling early 2019
 
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Thanks Ray. So more like a Julian date for the shipping, which would be around the end of March 2019. Does the 'L' have any meaning? Short for "Livraison", perhaps?
 
Thanks Tom - can get a 6 pack for £142.75 (£23.79/bottle).
Just to re-iterate how crazy Champagne prices can be, I got this from Vivino less than a month ago. They have just emailed me today with a "Save up to 33% on New Year's Fizz" offer. This Champagne was one of a few being offered. Now reduced from £41.65 to £27.99. You'd think their marketing dept. would check customer's previous purchases before sending out an off I can easily refuse.
 
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