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A very good question Tom, but since I’ve Coravined this, you will have be patient before all is revealed.
Jadot 'Old' vs 'New'
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I remember that I took a Jadot 1999 to the burgundy wimps last year: the Beaune 1er cru Les Bressandes rouge. It was so tight and closed that we all wondered if there was something wrong with it. We sought the sommelier's advice and he thought it just needed more time to breathe. Eventually it did start opening but it probably needed three hours in a decanter and a good hunk of bread and cheese. Are Jadot's other 1999s like this?
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I'm told that a recent Bonnes Mares was completely closed, David, but I've had several very enjoyable bottles from Gevrey, Chambolle and NSG.
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Slightly outside the discussion.... but Re @Richard Zambuni post i recall buying a standard Beaune from Jadot (I think a 2013) and found on the cork a 1er Cru label. I recall Msr @Thom Blach had said sometimes this happened so that what I was tasting was a superb 2013 1er cru..... that was not in line with my low expectations.
It is a producer with such a wide range of wines I am often confused.
It is a producer with such a wide range of wines I am often confused.
Just peel away the capsule, Richard, and all will be revealed.
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I've followed Claude's prescription, and the banal news is that it says 'Savigny-les-Beaune 1er cru 2010'. Not a Howard Carter moment it has to be said.
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I don't know about the semi-carbonics Filippo - at least in this particular case. Still, I think that the precision and clarity of the wines has been on an upward trajectory all over the place - high prices also allowing the most detail-conscious approaches and new equipment in the cuveries. I happily tasted an 05 Chambertin from Trapet on Friday - what a wine! - but the clarity of the more recent vintages is next level IMHO...
I had the ‘99 Jadot Bonnes Mares just 4 months ago, ready and drinking well now, to my surprise.
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Bill, I assume if you buy new kit and learn new techniques it'd feel like a waste not to apply them to your village wines.
Is it at that level where the biggest jump in value has occurred, piggybacking on grand cru treatment?
Or is there too much duff land in the village stuff so it's the PC-GC gap that has closed, making today's PCs better than the GCs of the past?
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Actually, Jeremy, I'd say that it is the regional reds that have advanced the most. Put a modern Bourgogne (also Hautes Côtes) in front of a winemaker 20 years ago and they simply would not believe that it was a Bourgogne in their glass - of course, the climate has made a massive contribution to this difference too. With that in mind it's regions too, just look at Savigny today - possibly the greatest QPR around, the 'traditional, characterful' rusticity and herbacity is gone - with Santenay coming to the fore in leaps and bounds too...
Take a fine, consistent vintage like 2019 (Côte d'Or and Hautes Côtes) and the average quality, clarity and balance is imho higher than for villages wines a generation ago...
Take a fine, consistent vintage like 2019 (Côte d'Or and Hautes Côtes) and the average quality, clarity and balance is imho higher than for villages wines a generation ago...
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The unready bottle was a magnum, which makes sense.
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I might buy the odd bottle of Bourgogne then!
Problem is all the cellared old stuff I've yet to blow my liver points on!