July WIMPS: it's good to be back!

Super Day all round, pretty miraculous in every department considering the Pingdemic.
WOTD for me was the 2013 Beaucastel VV. But I won’t dwell as it was my wine, and for once I was delighted that things worked out.

Just to add that Ben and the tables in the outer zone were superbly looked after by the lady Sommelier, who never rested and graciously accommodated the odd silly request that are the inevitable by products of wine ponces once we’ve have had a few glasses.
She was a lovely alternative to our Donald and I had a vague notion that I recognised her.
Patra then helpfully explained “She was with me at The Glasshouse, ……….and remembers you!”
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No offence intended towards anyone commenting , but why the sudden reticence for people to make any comment on the wine they bring to a WIMPS?

The wine is the wine like any other on the table. It is worthy of praise or criticism on its own merits on the day. I can understand if Nayan were to be reluctant to comment on a wine that he’s actually made, but none of the rest of us can proffer that as an excuse.

Surely we are all sufficiently adult to make an impartial call on the wine we bring?
 
Super Day all round, pretty miraculous in every department considering the Pingdemic.
WOTD for me was the 2013 Beaucastel VV. But I won’t dwell as it was my wine, and for once I was delighted that things worked out.

Just to add that Ben and the tables in the outer zone were superbly looked after by the lady Sommelier, who never rested and graciously accommodated the odd silly request that are the inevitable by products of wine ponces once we’ve have had a few glasses.
She was a lovely alternative to our Donald and I had a vague notion that I recognised her.
Patra then helpfully explained “She was with me at The Glasshouse, ……….and remembers you!”
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Was it Virginia? Curly hair over the mask?
 

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No offence intended towards anyone commenting , but why the sudden reticence for people to make any comment on the wine they bring to a WIMPS?

The wine is the wine like any other on the table. It is worthy of praise or criticism on its own merits on the day. I can understand if Nayan were to be reluctant to comment on a wine that he’s actually made, but none of the rest of us can proffer that as an excuse.

Surely we are all sufficiently adult to make an impartial call on the wine we bring?
Yes, it's an observation that struck me too.
I do find that I am quite sensitive to criticism of the wines I bring to events. Stupidly so, but it's always a relief when the wine one brings turns out to be OK.
Not sure I'd not offer a TN on it, though.
A silly idea, but I suppose one doesn't want to be thought of as boastful? Unlike some people we know who will always claim theirs as WOTD!
Talking of which, I think you'd have enjoyed "my" Mascarello, Mark ;-)
 
No offence intended towards anyone commenting , but why the sudden reticence for people to make any comment on the wine they bring to a WIMPS?

The wine is the wine like any other on the table. It is worthy of praise or criticism on its own merits on the day. I can understand if Nayan were to be reluctant to comment on a wine that he’s actually made, but none of the rest of us can proffer that as an excuse.

Surely we are all sufficiently adult to make an impartial call on the wine we bring?
Well I'm quite prepared to admit my unpronounceable 71 Huxelrebe was deemed undrinkable, shame as there may have been something interesting there once upon a decade. For reference the Prum was WS Auslese 1997.
Otherwise notes above on Ponderosa all fair, highlight were the Dom, delightful, as was Ganevat, a new one for me. The 71 Tondonia was surprisingly fresh and crisp, not as oxidative as I expected. All suitably fun and educational, Donald posing with his huge porchetta naturally a highlight.
 
Reflecting on third time back at LaT since reopening and I continue to be delighted at the superb efforts from the kitchen and the FOH team. We are most blessed to have such an outstanding team serving us, and the porchetta perhaps summed up everything tied up in a bow! On Marie we had some excellent conversation and lots of knowledge from Mark and Geordie especially with the wall of Shiraz Graham’s notes were excellent as ever. Pleased that my Pazo Senorans was a great accompaniment to the scallop and sardine dishes. The Seppelt St Peter the most interesting red for me but all drank well and contributed to another wonderful WIMPS experience
 
No offence intended towards anyone commenting , but why the sudden reticence for people to make any comment on the wine they bring to a WIMPS?

The wine is the wine like any other on the table. It is worthy of praise or criticism on its own merits on the day. I can understand if Nayan were to be reluctant to comment on a wine that he’s actually made, but none of the rest of us can proffer that as an excuse.

Surely we are all sufficiently adult to make an impartial call on the wine we bring?
well since you ask, I thought the dompers 98 was singing and the best bottle of this I've had. I also loved the multi-layered, waxy and slightly bonkers tondonia, but I always prefer to be more effusive about wines that others have brought and I can readily see that this version of a fairly legendary white wine might not have lit the fires of passion in others. I also tend to be hyper-critical of anything I've brought along and have in the past been known to be entirely unfair to wines because of that.
 
well since you ask, I thought the dompers 98 was singing and the best bottle of this I've had. I also loved the multi-layered, waxy and slightly bonkers tondonia, but I always prefer to be more effusive about wines that others have brought and I can readily see that this version of a fairly legendary white wine might not have lit the fires of passion in others. I also tend to be hyper-critical of anything I've brought along and have in the past been known to be entirely unfair to wines because of that.
Well since you responded….

Why would you prefer to be more effusive about wines that others have brought? And why would you be hypercritical of any wine that you had brought?

I suspect that I know the answer (you are a very modest fellow who cares for the feelings of others around you), but the danger is that now I’m worried when I read your notes (well not really, but humour me please) I’ve always thought of you as an excellent and very experienced taster whose view on a particular wine I’d take as read, but now I’m going to have to try and second guess who you are trying not to offend and looking to see which wine you’ve brought as you’re going to be deliberately downplaying its merit…..

Surely it‘s easier for everyone if you just tell us what you think about the wine in your glass? Especially as it is not “your wine”, but merely the wine you happened to have brought along to a tasting.

If a particular wine on the table doesn’t “light the fires of passion in others”, surely that is the problem of “others“, rather than of either you or the wine in question? If the wine has a level of quality that is high, why wouldn’t you proffer that, in your opinion, the wine is of high quality?
 
Mark , I have an excuse. I hadn't sat down to write up my notes, they are still in my trusty moleskin notebook , somewhere in a skip in the Chiswick area, since my car was broken into and the bag with my notes, a bottle of lucozade and a bag of jelly babies was stolen. I hope the set of notes realise their full value if/when they are traded on the criminal black market.
I will try and recollect from memory when I am in a slightly better frame of mind, but for everyone else whose dog didn't eat their notes - speak up!

To Don, many thanks for all the organisation. Changing regulations and illness made it extra work than usual, and I am very grateful - I had a great day out.
 
No offence intended towards anyone commenting , but why the sudden reticence for people to make any comment on the wine they bring to a WIMPS?

The wine is the wine like any other on the table. It is worthy of praise or criticism on its own merits on the day. I can understand if Nayan were to be reluctant to comment on a wine that he’s actually made, but none of the rest of us can proffer that as an excuse.

Surely we are all sufficiently adult to make an impartial call on the wine we bring?
I never have an issue, though of course have to check my obvious bias sometimes. When I bring a wine that’s faulty, which thankfully has been relatively rare, then I do feel deep shame and disappointment :)
When you bring a wine you do hope it’s in good nick and shows itself as it’s a joy to share a bottle with others who appreciate such things.
 
Lunch was fantastic. La T did very well and staff were fantastic.
Wines on our table were a diverse bunch but generally did very well. The 2004 Smith Haut Lafite initially had me worried with a deep sense of oxidisation and development with polish, wood and the usual characteristic. Chilled a bit more and with some air it levelled out and became much more a white tondonia. With food it did well.
Next to this beast we had a complete opposite - 2019 Cottenera. Light, fresh and rather good.

The Beaucastel VV was the star out of the blocks with that lovely rich, luscious feel. The 13 was a touch higher in alcohol that then 12 and once it warms it becomes more obvious but this was great.
I brought the Vernay Vernon 2011 In Magnum and was surprised how tight and sharp it was. An hour or two later it really softened and opened up but was a precise and excellent wine. Longer term this will be the star I’d hope, I have another couple of Mags so I’m sure we will find out at another offline.

Tondonia rosado was a touch cold and reserved initially but warmed to the occasion.

Reds were enjoyable enough

Food was excellent and I loved the big meaty scallop. Staff worked wonders and we very much got into the spirit of wimps rather than get too serious on the wines, though there were a decent bunch.
Very good day indeed.
 
Well since you responded….

Why would you prefer to be more effusive about wines that others have brought? And why would you be hypercritical of any wine that you had brought?

I suspect that I know the answer (you are a very modest fellow who cares for the feelings of others around you), but the danger is that now I’m worried when I read your notes (well not really, but humour me please) I’ve always thought of you as an excellent and very experienced taster whose view on a particular wine I’d take as read, but now I’m going to have to try and second guess who you are trying not to offend and looking to see which wine you’ve brought as you’re going to be deliberately downplaying its merit…..

Surely it‘s easier for everyone if you just tell us what you think about the wine in your glass? Especially as it is not “your wine”, but merely the wine you happened to have brought along to a tasting.

If a particular wine on the table doesn’t “light the fires of passion in others”, surely that is the problem of “others“, rather than of either you or the wine in question? If the wine has a level of quality that is high, why wouldn’t you proffer that, in your opinion, the wine is of high quality?
Perhaps I should qualify that Mark - I'm not one for the blowing of smoke anywhere and I'll only wax lyrical where I feel it's merited, but as you suggest I do think a degree of modesty appropriate, especially when we had such an array of different styles (even within the same region) on our table. That said if an out and out wine of the day emerges, I'll happily write an essay on it whoever brought it along.

Mark , I have an excuse. I hadn't sat down to write up my notes, they are still in my trusty moleskin notebook , somewhere in a skip in the Chiswick area, since my car was broken into and the bag with my notes, a bottle of lucozade and a bag of jelly babies was stolen. I hope the set of notes realise their full value if/when they are traded on the criminal black market.
I will try and recollect from memory when I am in a slightly better frame of mind, but for everyone else whose dog didn't eat their notes - speak up!

To Don, many thanks for all the organisation. Changing regulations and illness made it extra work than usual, and I am very grateful - I had a great day out.


Steve I'm so sorry to hear that, what an absolutely shite way to end such a great occasion - it was a pleasure to see you again, hopefully not so long until next time.
 
Great notes from Neil H above, so nothing to add for the table I was on except to thank Don and La Trompette for doing what they do so well and so consistently. I wasn't a complete fan of the venison ragout, finding the sauce perhaps a little too much of a good thing, but the other three dishes were right up my street. If anything, the beautiful simplicity of the perfectly cooked scallop and its accoutrements were my favourite. I was lucky enough to be passed a small glass of the Tondonia Gran Reserva blanco 1971 - what a superb wine. Without doubt the oldest Tondonia blanco I've had the pleasure to drink and still with a bright, super-fresh colour but a texture that screamed serious bottle age. One of the wine world's great eccentrics. And here's a shot of the porchetta photobombing my portrait of the Don himself.


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Crikey where did half of Don disappear to!!!!
 
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Really enjoyed yesterday. Food and wine were both excellent, but I think I enjoyed the company even more - such a treat to sit and chat about wine, travel, scuba diving, spiders and methods for surviving snakebite with people I had never met before. Highlights for me wine-wise were definitely the aged albariño (who even knew that was a thing?), which had a lovely nose that just leapt from the glass, Huré Frères Champagne, which had a wonderful complexity that I reckon came to the fore thanks to the almost non-existent bubbles, and the two Victorian Shirazes - Mark's Seppelt St Peters and my own Dalwhinnie - which both had plenty of fruit and lovely balance.

Geordie your comment on bubbles reminds me of Donald Trumps position on climate change! :) :p
 
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