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Like I said, I am neither advising nor endorsing ivermectin, but having had taste/smell issues myself with Covid I know how frustrating they are. And I’m sure those suffering from long Covid have other horrible symptoms too.

So if it was me, and there was a safe potential treatment that has helped other people, then I would try it whether there was ‘sufficient evidence to support’ it at the current time or not.

Oxford University would not be conducting a large scale study if they didn’t think it had potential, or if smaller studies had proved it ineffective.

Each to their own, but I have a solutions-based mindset and there are plenty of alternative treatments that work for all sorts of ailments despite not having the scientific evidence to support them.
 
Two and a half weeks on from the onset of symptoms my senses of smell and taste have improved greatly, although I can tell that my sense of smell is still not 100%. I know that taste and smell are intimately linked, but I seem to be able to taste better than I can smell at the moment. If the improvement continues at this rate, I should be back to normal within a month. Sorry to hear about your experience Geordie.
 
Wow, there hasn't been a covid post for almost a week.

Double vaccination taken as a given, what other prophylactic steps can you take in preparation for coming into contact with covid? And could we please have, if possible, any recommendations accompanied with links to research papers.

Many thanks,

Travis
 
Double vaccination taken as a given, what other prophylactic steps can you take in preparation for coming into contact with covid? And could we please have, if possible, any recommendations accompanied with links to research papers.
Facemask.

Of course, there is arguments about if it's wore properly, should it be compulsory, the quality.... thus lead to questions on how facemask policy work for the whole community. There are a lot of papers about that.
But your question is "what other prophylactic steps can you take in preparation for coming into contact with covid", so those arguments do not really apply. You decide to wear mask, you choose good quality of mask, and you learn to wear it correctly. I don't think we need research papers for that, though there are also many.

Household members could be another issue, you might need to educate or communicate with them about all these.
 
Looks like Covid is finally here to stay in Aus. It’s out of control in NSW and Victoria confirmed yesterday that they would not be able to get back to a Covid zero position.

The good news though is that the increase in infections has resulted in an increase in vaccinations. The announcement today of an extra 4 million doses in a swap deal with the UK means that the country may get to its 80% vaccination rate by the end of the year . It’s a big if though as there seems to be a split developing between the states. Those that have not had much of an issue with Covid and are enjoying a normal lifestyle don’t seem too keen on either opening up or getting vaccinated, while the 2 most important states look like they will follow the European model, with a controlled decline in Lockdowns as the vaccination rates increase. A lot of this will be posturing for the soon to be had election, but it could be that Aus ends up like America with very large differences in vaccination take up.
 
Is anyone else expecting things to get pretty nasty again? we once more lead the world in the daily number of new cases being confirmed and the delta variant seems increasingly vaccine resistant; and yet we yesterday saw the astonishing spectacle of the government benches almost unanimously rejecting their own mask wearing advice. It's as though they don't really believe in covid at all...
 
Is anyone else expecting things to get pretty nasty again? we once more lead the world in the daily number of new cases being confirmed and the delta variant seems increasingly vaccine resistant; and yet we yesterday saw the astonishing spectacle of the government benches almost unanimously rejecting their own mask wearing advice. It's as though they don't really believe in covid at all...

#brokenrecord the one number I follow consistently is the trailing 7 day death rate. This is clearly a lagging indicator, but has the benefit that it is most likely very accurate. ANYWAY - in the UK we seem to be gently trending upward - currently at 113 (it bobs up and down but seems to be increasing at about 5 or so per week) - for context, 5 is the number of people who die on the average day from motor vehicles.
 
Is anyone else expecting things to get pretty nasty again? we once more lead the world in the daily number of new cases being confirmed and the delta variant seems increasingly vaccine resistant; and yet we yesterday saw the astonishing spectacle of the government benches almost unanimously rejecting their own mask wearing advice. It's as though they don't really believe in covid at all...
Everyone seems to be expecting numbers to increase again. What's interesting is that in France numbers are falling rapidly again despite the Delta variant being prevalent and no material difference in vaccination rates. Only difference seems to be mask wearing.
 
Everyone seems to be expecting numbers to increase again. What's interesting is that in France numbers are falling rapidly again despite the Delta variant being prevalent and no material difference in vaccination rates. Only difference seems to be mask wearing.
Which they do spectacularly well, it must be said.

I was in France for 2 weeks in August (Bordeaux and the Loire) and I was very impressed with how well everyone was managing it. Proof of vaccination was requested at even the smallest bakery and everyone seemed to be happy and living life again.
 
Proof of vaccination was requested at even the smallest bakery and everyone seemed to be happy and living life again.
It seems to me that we are more or less back to 'normal' here. I hope that doesn't quickly become something that we regret.
The French government's success in turning round what was a far more vaccine sceptical country than the UK seems to me remarkable.
 
The devil is in the detail. Virtually all areas in which cases are rising sharply are in Scotland, where schools went back two or three weeks ago. I expect England and Wales will follow a similar related trajectory.
 
Remember the French stats are now for over 12s not over 18s.
Schools are now arranging transport to vaccination centres during the school day so expect the % to go up.

Quite soon all over 12s will need the pass to enter restaurants, cafes, museums etc - but not schools.
 
I wish I could say that there were only blue skies ahead for France, but a report issued today from the Institut Pasteur says that it will be very difficult to avoid a fifth wave -- the infectiousness of the delta variant requires immunities at about the 95% level in order to be confident that it will not arise.

That said, I think we've already seen with the fourth wave, which was much less serious than the third wave, the maximum numbers are likely to be decreasing.
 
The guardian is reporting that there is already a proposal for a two week half term firebreak lockdown. It’s rogue sage scientist based at the moment not denied by Downing Street but you know how these things are leaked and briefed.
Deaths today at 209 and infections pushing 40000. We’ve not seen any increase from schools returning yet. In England that is.
Vaccine roll out has stalled and we need 95% I’m guessing to stall the spread.
 
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