NWR new zero tolerance covid thread

So we should all act like them, wear a mask and socially distance.
At least that’s my take out.
I think the researchers factored in the additional social distance but I got lost in the stats, I admit.
Extract from the report
“Furthermore, among individuals living in communities with poor social distancing, individuals who reported wearing face masks ‘always’ outside of the home had a 62% reduced risk of predicted COVID-19 compared to individuals who wore face masks none of the time.”

I think that as masks are at least as much about protecting others as ourselves, there’s always a herd behaviour thing. People see a mask and stay away a little. Also next time they think about wearing one themselves.
Well, we are in Cornwall at the moment and there are very few people bothering with masks, even inside. Seems mostly older people (like us) that are still wearing them. I’m even wearing them outside in really crowded places. I still think they are a good idea.
 
I've said it before I know but it's remarkable just how much better American print media (or, at least, the very best of it) is than ours. All the more so considering how incredibly dire almost all of their television news is.
Although having lived there twice since the late 1990s, I can say that it too has declined dramatically in breadth of coverage particularly (especially for overseas news). The NYT especially has been hollowed out compared to its glory days.
 
Also a new booster jab is being tested that works on the non spike proteins on the virus (no I don’t understand either). These mutates much less so the range of immunity should be better.
Scientists and experts who needs them!
 

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Went to a concert (opera) at the weekend, took my seat and removed my mask only to look round and see that everyone else seated had theirs on. A quick check on the programme and yes, there it was: masks compulsory at indoor concerts in Scotland. I'm usually up to speed with the regulations here and knew they were legally required on public transport and in retail for example, but checked the scot.gov web site when I got home and saw they are still compulsory in basically all indoor public or communal locations. Wearing a mask for a couple of hours in a theatre was not that much fun I confess, but I am happy with the situation now that I know about it.
 
I’ve travelled on the tube twice in the last week and so four journeys made in total. My guesstimate is about two thirds to three quarters of fellow travellers weren’t masked.

It really is absurd that the government is saying to TFL you should enforce mask wearing as a condition of carriage in their trains and buses whilst not having the legal powers or resources to do so.

Either let’s have a free for all or make mask wearing a legal requirement on TFL. Present situation is absurd!!!
 
I’ve travelled on the tube twice in the last week and so four journeys made in total. My guesstimate is about two thirds to three quarters of fellow travellers weren’t masked.

It really is absurd that the government is saying to TFL you should enforce mask wearing as a condition of carriage in their trains and buses whilst not having the legal powers or resources to do so.

Either let’s have a free for all or make mask wearing a legal requirement on TFL. Present situation is absurd!!!

Mayor of London decision not government

 
In regard to booster jabs perhaps a more worldly viewpoint is needed. I believe there are still around 90% of africa and other small countries waiting for their first jab!
Exactly, Max. I don't know whether to refuse mine, as some are doing. If I knew that my injection would instead be delivered somewhere it is needed more I would certainly do it but I don't suppose it works like that, unfortunately.
 
Although having lived there twice since the late 1990s, I can say that it too has declined dramatically in breadth of coverage particularly (especially for overseas news). The NYT especially has been hollowed out compared to its glory days.
That's true of all print media everywhere. The advent of the internet means that an industry which once has huge financial resources is now stretched to the limit financially.
 
If just the excess jabs could be sent aboard before they go off, that would be a start.

Just heard that the UK is swapping excess 1m vaccines with South Korea. That well known third world country! They will give others back at the end of the year, when supply in Asia catches up.
I suppose that a Korean jabbed helps build up world immunity.
 
If I knew that my injection would instead be delivered somewhere it is needed more I would certainly do it but I don't suppose it works like that, unfortunately.
The Pfizer vaccine, which is the main one being used here now, must be very difficult to use in underdeveloped countries as it needs to be kept as such low temperatures, so I strongly suspect that is correct.

Beyond vaccine supply, there are many more factors that could potentially limit vaccination rates in very poor countries, but it would be nice to see some sort of analysis of where the bottlenecks are and what is being done about it.

I'm not holding my breath on that one though - I never even seen such an analysis for vaccination (or PPE supply) in the UK.
 
Thanks George. I wonder whether Londoners are more reluctant to wear masks on public transport than citizens of other major towns and cities in England?
Brighton seems fairly well behaved, Worthing less so. My anecdotal and no doubt controversial observation is that the mask wearing rate seems to decline in an almost linear fashion towards Southampton.

I wonder whether it picks up again on its way to Bristol and Bath? :)
 
Interesting study that is explained to us laypeople by Healthcare Triage. Wear masks.

Given that the standard errors are reported as 10% in the reporting of influenza like illnesses and that they measured a reduction of just over 11% in the mask wearing villages compared to the control villages this study does not really inspire any confidence in the efficacy of mask wearing. As it could be they decrease by 21% or 1%.
 
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