NWR new zero tolerance covid thread

So everyone arriving in the UK will be asked to take a PCR test for Covid-19 on the second day? So the cheaper LFT option is no longer acceptable... I wonder when this kicks in?
I fly back on Thursday and have assumed it will kick in before then. Just cancelled my LFT and ordered a PCR.

I figured that there will be a rush on PCR tests, so get in before anyone else does.
 

Tom Cannavan

Administrator
Well, £40 wasted on 2 LF tests that will arrive on Monday, now 2 PCR self tests ordered because the Randox site for booking a testing appointment in Glasgow was timing out all afternoon and site crashed. Will the PCRs arrive in time? 4 - 6 working days they say, and there are 5 until I fly...
 

Tom Cannavan

Administrator
Where are you now, Tom? Still overseas, I presume. You need them 2 days after you land, right? So plenty of time? You'll get the reference required for your Passenger Location Form immediately, right?

Hi Alex, still in blighty. We don't leave until next weekend, but problem is we arrive back late Saturday 18th, probably no deliveries Sunday 19th so would have to try to get the test on Monday 20th which is Christmas week. So I wanted to have the tests here before we go. I have the Passenger Locator reference numbers from the new PCR tests ordered this evening, but will they actually arrive before we go? There's nobody to receive them if they arrive after we've left, and as they are quoting delivery in 4 - 6 business days, it's all a bit fraught: we only have five business days left....

Randox has a testing centre in Glasgow, but I spent 2 hours trying to book an appointment for the 20th - just a white screen them timeout errors time after time, then I think their web site crashed completely....
 
We had deliberately deferred booking a Eurotunnel crossing for next month. Now, our instinct is to not travel for Christmas, In order to avoid the risk of a red status quarantine, despite having the flexibility to extend our stay. Moreover, the French government may Ned to change their rules.
There is too much uncertainty, currently.
 
Well, £40 wasted on 2 LF tests that will arrive on Monday, now 2 PCR self tests ordered because the Randox site for booking a testing appointment in Glasgow was timing out all afternoon and site crashed. Will the PCRs arrive in time? 4 - 6 working days they say, and there are 5 until I fly...
Last time I ordered a day 2 test for returning to Scotland it didn't arrive until I had been home for 7 days and so I didn't get a result until day 10.
No-one came asking any questions, I didn't even get a phone call from track and trace (although I traveled regularly all through lockdown so they might have on their records that they have already checked up on me a dozen times).
As long as you have the reference for your PLF I don't think you will get any hassle.
 
We ordered PCR tests last night, qured are doing a black friday code of BF20 to get 20% off. Last time we used qured, the tests were sitting in our pile of mail when we returned. They easily fit through a letterbox. As Tim says above I think it will all work out fine.
 
We ordered PCR tests last night, qured are doing a black friday code of BF20 to get 20% off. Last time we used qured, the tests were sitting in our pile of mail when we returned. They easily fit through a letterbox. As Tim says above I think it will all work out fine.
They completely bollocksed my first lot. Changing delivery dates until completely cancelling them altogether. They seemed surprised when I insisted they sent me some.

The second time, perfect and delivered through the letterbox before I left.
 
We had deliberately deferred booking a Eurotunnel crossing for next month. Now, our instinct is to not travel for Christmas, In order to avoid the risk of a red status quarantine, despite having the flexibility to extend our stay. Moreover, the French government may Ned to change their rules.
There is too much uncertainty, currently.

We are planning to head over to Northern France on the 20th for 10 days..... if the PCR plans stay as now we will go ahead.... but right now given the, erm, suboptimal state of relations between France and UK govts we are expecting changes to happen....

The frustrating thing about this (and I appreciate we dont have full facts on the new variant) is that we are only as strong as the weakest country.
 
Good article on Omicron


This in particular stuck out to me:

Thanks to South African scientists, their public health infrastructure, their talent and dedication and the transparency of their government WE HAVE AN EARLY WARNING. A VERY EARLY WARNING.

I cannot overemphasize how valuable this is, and what a gift they have given us.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, South African scientists, medical workers, public health employees.

But an early warning on what? Ah, that is the beauty of it. The earlier the warning, the less we know. I’ve done my best to keep up on all the information being shared by scientists on this (amazing! so much open science!) and my current conclusion is that everything is on the table, including that this just fizzles out or turns out to be a catastrophe.
 
About to return home from Finland. The timing of switch from LFT to PCR means that the LFT test ordered last week is still acceptable so fingers crossed they deliver it. Already seeing the policy of demanding a check of COVID vaccine proof every time I entered a bar in Helsinki which was encouraging.

Suspect I am one of the lucky. A friend failed to get on the KLM flights out of Joburg so has decided to just stay an extra month and get his meds via the private medicine folk in SA and some more clothes from Woolworths. At least food and wine will not break the bank.

Looking at the debate on Omicron, there seens to be as many saying SA being picked on as those continuing to refuse the vax. Sadly my ex-wife and pregnant daughter seem to be in latter camp. It is a rum old place out there.
 
I really don't like this closing, summarising simile. If you call the fire brigade to an ember they can totally, easily, and with minimal effort remove any possible risk. That's very much not the case with Omicron. Yes, it's great to have had very early notice (well done SA!) but that really makes sod all difference to whether the house will eventually go up in flames or not. If this new variant is more transmissable then it WILL spread, because it's already all over the world. We just get a head start in working out how bad it is (and, of course, it may yet end up being nothing to worry about.)
The simile is not perfect, but better than you make out. Buying time also gives us more chance of getting new vaccines if necessary, and identifying symptoms to look out for and how it is transmitted
 
I’m not entirely sure why they keep doing the same thing over and over again when it’s proven not to work. If Omicron is more transmissible than Delta then it will become the dominant strain almost everywhere whether we like it or not.

The South African doctors seem to be suggesting it could be milder than Delta, and if that proves to be the case then it’s great news. Still need more data on that of course but the fear mongering & pointless measures begin immediately regardless.
 
Hi Alex, still in blighty. We don't leave until next weekend, but problem is we arrive back late Saturday 18th, probably no deliveries Sunday 19th so would have to try to get the test on Monday 20th which is Christmas week. So I wanted to have the tests here before we go. I have the Passenger Locator reference numbers from the new PCR tests ordered this evening, but will they actually arrive before we go? There's nobody to receive them if they arrive after we've left, and as they are quoting delivery in 4 - 6 business days, it's all a bit fraught: we only have five business days left....

Randox has a testing centre in Glasgow, but I spent 2 hours trying to book an appointment for the 20th - just a white screen them timeout errors time after time, then I think their web site crashed completely....
Can't you have it sent to a neighbour?
 
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