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Growers like PYCM and Dancer show what is possible from modern white burgundy producers. Plenty of fine to found at not monster money try Bret Brothers, Dureuil-Janthial, the list is long just needs some research
True, but it's nearly all very dull indeed, at least to my taste, a taste not so much unrequited as jilted-I mean, no-one's going to get excited drinking a bottle from the perfectly respectable Dureuil-Janthial or Vincent Dancer, and while PYCM is definitely good the grander wines are really no better at all than they should be.There’s plenty of decent quality/value white Burgundy alongside the rubbish.
I had a half case of the 2000 from TWS - they were rather lovely as I recall.I took the 1990 Mas de Daumas Gassac to the first ever offline I attended, at The Establishment in Manchester (was that actually the first ever Manchester offline?). I guess it must have been around 15 years ago. Ray Abercrombie was leading the tasting, which was conducted blind. Ray's take on the wine (before the reveal) was that it might have been a Cru Classe St Julien - not one of the upper tier ones but around 4th Growth level.
Anyway, we drank the 1998 on Sunday night with a cassoulet and I have to say I thought it rather good. It was in the style of a classical claret (i.e. the sort that I like), still with a bit of fruit, fully resolved and nicely balanced, palate-cleansing, dry-ish finish. I think it might have been the best I've had apart from the 1990.
Like Ben, I've found most other vintages a bit "meh", and sometimes charmless although not necessarily rustic.
I can't speak from the kind of experience Thom and Joel have; but after a fair amount of experimentation, and aside from Chablis, modern white Burgundy usually leaves me cold also.True, but it's nearly all very dull indeed, at least to my taste, a taste not so much unrequited as jilted-I mean, no-one's going to get excited drinking a bottle from the perfectly respectable Dureuil-Janthial or Vincent Dancer, and while PYCM is definitely good the grander wines are really no better at all than they should be.
Me neither, until that is we had several versions when staying in the mountains in Austria in the summer with our friends - all of a sudden it made sense.The wine I cannot get at all is Gruner Veltliner .
??I certainly won’t go so far as Thom’s blanket statement with regard to Bordeaux
I assume Alex means the thing about 1990 Montrose, but that wasn't your blanket statement, it was someone else's!
Sounds like you should take Joel out for lunch then David!