Weekend drinking Thread 19-21 Feb

Start of another 6 pack and as good or better than the last.
Elegant and refined but with just enough red fruit succulence.
18/20.
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So coming along then if as good or better.
my last bottle was 18 months ago and thought it a bit light and very dry, touch harsh, have the 05 Comtes ahead of it score wise but of course that’s just my palate not a score on wine making or quality.
My thoughts were a couple of years would help. My case is still in storage but maybe this summer might try another one.
still got older rose and that last case of 1995 BDM to crack on with. Saying that I’m still waiting for the Magnum of 2008 Roederer pink to become ready.
 
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This was glorious last night and it has finally come round. My 4th of 6, I had dabbled every few years only to find searing acidity and not much else, last one probably about 4-5 yrs ago now, I must have been scared off. Anyway this has now entered its window and is delicious. Straw, lanolin, slightly floral nose then the classic limey palate. Still lots of acidity of course but it’s definitely rounded off significantly and the texture is lovely. No rush but worth a look now.
 
Some things on the Coravin go over the last few days. Georges Comte is in the Comte, appropriately (actually Doubs, between Burgundy and the Jura). Very very concentrated, very acidic, old-school relatively cool climate Chardonnay. Maybe a tiny bit of apple hiding in there but really not a wine about the fruit at all. It is being sold with significant age on it as well, which I've not tried. There's a little oxidation here, but it is clearly part of the wine making and no lack of freshness.

12 Labet Varrons is far from dead but not as lively and complex as it was a couple of years ago. I should probably not sit on the 14s and 15s I have forever....06 Chandon des Brialles Iles des V - this is really quite good, lovely and smooth with raspberry-ish fruit. A little less than attractive burnt rubber on the nose at first but this went away relatively quickly.

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This was glorious last night and it has finally come round. My 4th of 6, I had dabbled every few years only to find searing acidity and not much else, last one probably about 4-5 yrs ago now, I must have been scared off. Anyway this has now entered its window and is delicious. Straw, lanolin, slightly floral nose then the classic limey palate. Still lots of acidity of course but it’s definitely rounded off significantly and the texture is lovely. No rush but worth a look now.
Seems it maybe time for me to try a bottle. [Grosset PH '09].
I purchase Springvale nowadays, as it needs less time. The quality is on a par & there's the bonus that it's cheaper.
 
So coming along then if as good or better.
my last bottle was 18 months ago and thought it a bit light and very dry, touch harsh, have the 05 Comtes ahead of it score wise but of course that’s just my palate not a score on wine making or quality.
My thoughts were a couple of years would help. My case is still in storage but maybe this summer might try another one.
still got older rose and that last case of 1995 BDM to crack on with. Saying that I’m still waiting for the Magnum of 2008 Roederer pink to become ready.

I need to restate the 05 CDC, it is not a wine I’d ever describe as stemmy, although there are various forms of rot at play in this vintage so something may have emerged in bottle.
 
Last night another Kershaw Deconstructed CY96. Initially seemed a little more open and riper than a previous bottle 2 months prior but seemed to tighten up and offer a touch of spice. Excellent.

Today a really good joint of Pork in the oven so I’m thinking white Rhône.
Started with a Domaine Tunnel Prestige 2016. It’s mainly a marsanne blend and rather fresh for the style with just a touch of honey. Wanting maybe a bit more richness I thought another bottle wouldn’t hurt and found a Lillian Roussane 2013 in the bottom bin of the storage unit. (I know it’s not Rhone but it’s Roussane and been ignored for a few years )
I’ve avoided this one as mentally I’m sure a bottle a few years back didn’t click. Initially I can see why, as it seems a bit soft and has a richer more mature feel than the Tunnel, which is to be expected. Its picked from then Stolpman vineyard which I’m not a fan of as I find that producer a bit soft and wishy washy. Just 10 mins in this does pick up more acidity and bite with interesting / odd herb elements which I’ve been trying to place though fennel but mainly sage comes through.
the first glass has already gone and not even started on the roasties yet so best get cracking. I do rather like this which is great as I expected not to.
 
I need to restate the 05 CDC, it is not a wine I’d ever describe as stemmy, although there are various forms of rot at play in this vintage so something may have emerged in bottle.
Yes you probably more than correct. I don’t have a huge wine reference / vocabulary in matching adjectives.
I find with the few 05s I‘ve had all have this rather bitter finish and the Comtes I thought was more a stem / branch like taste though zero of the reports on CT mentioned either bitterness or stems :)

Need to get you out to an offline and I’ll be happy to bring a Mag of the 05 for tasting :)

Maybe @Raymond Tilney or @Julian Seers-Martin can help with the description as they have both had recent bottles and may have a better grasp.
 
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Yes you probably more than correct. I don’t have a huge wine reference / vocabulary in matching adjectives.
I find with the few 05s I‘ve had all have this rather bitter finish and the Comtes I thought was more a stem / branch like taste though zero of the reports on CT mentioned either bitterness or stems :)

Need to get you out to an offline and I’ll be happy to bring a Mag of the 05 for tasting :)

Maybe @Raymond Tilney or @Julian Seers-Martin can help with the description as they have both had recent bottles and may have a better grasp.

Bitterness on the finish is usually a sign of dry extract, but it tends to be more pithy. In this case, if the bitter flavours lean towards apricot then it might be evidence of emerging Botrytis (even the Chardonnay’s had a little of it in 05).
 
I've drunk some 15 bottles of this and have yet to find burnt rubber, but it's been a while.
Maybe burnt rubber is a bit strong, but definitely something in that plastic/petrochemical family. But not there last night when I let it sit in the glass for an hour or so before starting on it. It is very good - I had a couple of bottles young and have more in store, but not 15...!
 
Thanks. That’s interesting — I love LRA and find them at the more traditional end of the spectrum, but they do need time (as do Muga, who I’d characterise as more modern in style, even more so). I hadn’t thought of LRA having a heavy touch (I’m guessing you mean of fruit and oak), but I can understand what you mean when I think of younger examples tasted.

I'd agree with you - wasn't clear on what I meant by traditional / modern! The oak stuck out a lot more on the LRA was what I meant, and I do agree that Muga is made in a modern style (that I don't mind, a little like Fontodi if I can draw a parallel).
 
Yes, somewhere between 'farmyard' and the slight green and straw/twig/hessian thing that stems sometimes give
Yep, my mental gradation scale from unripe to super-ripe goes something like “green peppery - green twig - straw/hessian - blonde resin.

I’d put “silage” between green twig and straw/hessian ie. just a hint of underripeness.
 
Remembered I had filed these away. Kabi to begin.
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Got lucky this weekend. Friday was so hectic that I did not have time to line anything up for rack of lamp and pulled out the Leoville Barton at the last minute. Before that a compelling ‘14 Niellon Vergers. Not had one for a while but I had been racing through this case for fear of premox. This has such poise, tension, power and class it felt like it could easily go another ten years. White burgundy at its best.

At Jason’s Leoville Barton dinner the 1999 was corked. This bottle was absolutely brilliant, drinking beautifully. I think this would have easily held its own against the mightily impressive 01/02/04 tiumverate. This has such finesse with dark fruits and violets and it is now absolutely delicious. It is such an achievement for such a modest year and it has to be a wine of the vintage contender. These four vintages are so much a better bet than the grumpy 95 and 96 Leoville Bartons.

The Pouilly Fuisse was lively, brimming with Uber-ripe fruit and raciness. The Taupenot-Merme Morey started off promisingly. It wasn’t corked like some others from the same batch of 01 and 02 Riottes. It has a smoky sauvage /meaty/cured meat entry which was alluring, and a bit of sweet berry fruit on the palate. But otherwise it was humdrum. It was rather boring otherwise and lacked depth and complexity. This is an estate that has really raised its game it seems in recent years. It needed to.

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last night with home made chicken Madras, holding up well , initially peach , violets and herbs.settling down to grapefruit and the acidity of the 07s keeping the length with a nice lime finish.
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I'd agree with you - wasn't clear on what I meant by traditional / modern! The oak stuck out a lot more on the LRA was what I meant, and I do agree that Muga is made in a modern style (that I don't mind, a little like Fontodi if I can draw a parallel).
2010 904 needs hiding away. I’d recommend you try the 1995 if you want to get a handle on it Melvin. Should our paths cross at an offline I’d be very happy to bring one!
 
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I wrote about the mediocre 1999 Hermitage we had last night on the dedicated thread, but happily the white we had made up for it (thanks @Leon Marks for the recommendation):

2017 Domaine Treloar Vin de Pays des Côtes Catalanes La Terre Promise - France, Languedoc Roussillon, Roussillon, Vin de Pays des Côtes Catalanes (2/20/2021)
Really tasty, drinkable wine; there's a sense of tension between its ripe/creamy and bitter/tense qualities and each sip reintroduces that afresh, making drinking this wine rather addictive. There's a floral note, some green notes and just the right amount of grip and acidity. Feels weightier than its 13%. Yum (and very good value - £15.99 DP). (92 pts.)
 
Along with our delicious meal from Noizé yesterday we thought we’d take a couple of bottles off off their list as they seemed very reasonably priced for their age and wanted to give Mathieu and team a little more support
2007 Paul Chapelle Puligny-Montrachet Hameau de Blagny 1er, which was mid weight, fresh and mature white burgundy, no real fireworks but does It’s job well, the remaining couple of glasses today had lost the richness and left some angular acidity.
2000 Potinet-Ampeau Auxey-Duresses, Bas des Duresses 1er, this was a lovely violet tinged wine that still has good bright cherry fruit and went a treat with our hake, lentils and celeriac purée

the food was really tasty and all very simple to prepare, they were delivering to us in SW london and is recommended
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