Wine Society 2019 Burgundy

I'm not sure that it's strange. The demand for top grower's wines even at what often seem absurd prices is currently more or less insane and it probably behoves TWS to be circumspect. I asked for some Roumier because it seems silly not to, but the website is clearly under considerable strain.
 
I'm not sure that it's strange. The demand for top grower's wines even at what often seem absurd prices is currently more or less insane and it probably behoves TWS to be circumspect. I asked for some Roumier because it seems silly not to, but the website is clearly under considerable strain.
Well you have until March 11th.......I’ve already got my Roumier the WS offer is just a topping up exercise.
 
There’s a lot of puff and frenzy in certain places around this offer but there seems plenty of wine around at not too ridiculous prices from very decent but unheraded producers elsewhere to be found without looking too hard.

I would say their proof-reader needs to be ahem “re-deployed”, theyve officially published the same rough copy that has been around for a few days.
 
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I'm not sure that it's strange. The demand for top grower's wines even at what often seem absurd prices is currently more or less insane and it probably behoves TWS to be circumspect. I asked for some Roumier because it seems silly not to, but the website is clearly under considerable strain.
I’m probably being thick but I can’t see Roumier on the offer, pray tell? All I can see on the online only bit is Cathiard
 
There’s a lot of puff and frenzy in certain places around this offer but there seems plenty of wine around at not too ridiculous prices from very decent but unheraded producers elsewhere to be found without looking too hard.
I don't know about puff and frenzy, it seems just as sensible and cool-headed as everything else the society does. What did strike me while looking at the offer is that there is now no difference in price in many, possibly even most cases, between the prices of the wines en primeur and the prices of those same wines when fully mature and ready to drink. While one can at least argue that the wines are better now(though it may be a more complex argument than it seems), and while I believe and hope that closures are much more reliable than they were, I just don't understand financially speaking why one wouldn't buy the wines ready to drink or close to that condition; it is not generally as hard to find mature bottles these days as it once was.
 
No I don’t mean the “staff” Tom I was talking about some of the members.

I’m only buying a bit of lower end stuff - and I agree that you can pick up (and I have recently) some of the better stuff from good vintages thats mature or halfway there for less (sometimes significantly so) at retail without too much effort.
 
It's a thoughtfully put together offer, the insights really fascinating. I just wish everything was so expensive - which isn't TWS's fault.
 
At £775/6 IB it’s hard to see them selling much Drouhin Laroze Clos de Beze when the description is this...

Opulent, sweetly flavoured and very, very ripe at present. Time will tell if it will rearrange itself

Admirable frankness though.
 
At £775/6 IB it’s hard to see them selling much Drouhin Laroze Clos de Beze when the description is this...

Opulent, sweetly flavoured and very, very ripe at present. Time will tell if it will rearrange itself

Admirable frankness though.
I was offered that at £360 for three by Davy’s - in the end I didn’t bite...
 
At £775/6 IB it’s hard to see them selling much Drouhin Laroze Clos de Beze when the description is this...

Opulent, sweetly flavoured and very, very ripe at present. Time will tell if it will rearrange itself

Admirable frankness though.
Yes that note jumped out at me too, I wish every merchant was as straightforward
 
I’m in for a few bits, at both ends of the spectrum but nothing really in the middle. I have been lucky in the past so fingers crossed.

I think Toby has done a great job, and is also busy answering questions on TWS own forum - even on a Saturday. Not much he can do about release prices, especially if the market is swallowing them.

Potentially the best news in the offer for me is the statement that Pataille’s single vineyard Aligotes will be offered DP later in the year.
 
I think Toby has done a great job, and is also busy answering questions on TWS own forum
Interesting to see what Toby is saying. I think all red burgundy needs to have the instruction to serve at no more than 15C printed in huge letters on the front label, I can't count the number of potentially great bottles I have seen ruined, and I mean ruined because it is never practical to cool the wine in the glass, by serving at room temperature. I am hugely unimpressed by the practice of allowing red burgundy to sit for hours in the glass a la Broadbent.
 
Interesting to see what Toby is saying. I think all red burgundy needs to have the instruction to serve at no more than 15C printed in huge letters on the front label, I can't count the number of potentially great bottles I have seen ruined, and I mean ruined because it is never practical to cool the wine in the glass, by serving at room temperature. I am hugely unimpressed by the practice of allowing red burgundy to sit for hours in the glass a la Broadbent.
When I first started to get “into wine”, in a cold student house, I certainly spoiled several wines by thinking I needed to warm them to “room temperature”.

Later, I certainly also struggled to “get” Burgundy until I understood the importance of serving temperature and using a big bowled glass - in fact I think a guide of Toby’s on TWS website was certainly useful in understanding that (circa 2008/9).
 
Interesting to see what Toby is saying. I think all red burgundy needs to have the instruction to serve at no more than 15C printed in huge letters on the front label, I can't count the number of potentially great bottles I have seen ruined, and I mean ruined because it is never practical to cool the wine in the glass, by serving at room temperature. I am hugely unimpressed by the practice of allowing red burgundy to sit for hours in the glass a la Broadbent.
In restaurants, I routinely have to ask for a bucket to cool the wine down, even in Burgundy.
 
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