NWR Women's tennis

About half of the 2015 AB starting team, alone. I don't think he's even in the conversation - McCaw, Carter and Zinzan Brooke are the obvious NZ contenders.

Watching a rampant Lomu was brilliant for the sport, but he was playing against undersized, often semi-professional players. A brilliant athlete and ambassador for the game, but far surpassed since (and before, but less obviously).
Maybe Fintan, but he could only play against those playing then and we do judge the “greats” by what they did at the time. Barry John for example playing now would get destroyed but surely he nonetheless deserves to be regarded as one of the greats.

That said I’m unconvinced Lomu was the greatest rugby player ever. He was big, very big, and fast too obviously. But once sides worked out how to neutralise him he was much less successful.
 
Maybe Fintan, but he could only play against those playing then and we do judge the “greats” by what they did at the time. Barry John for example playing now would get destroyed but surely he nonetheless deserves to be regarded as one of the greats.

That said I’m unconvinced Lomu was the greatest rugby player ever. He was big, very big, and fast too obviously. But once sides worked out how to neutralise him he was much less successful.
Sure, but then at some point direct comparisons have to be made to talk about the greatest, and then it comes into play.

I have McCaw as the greatest rugby player ever, which isn't exactly an inspired choice.
 
No mention of Phil The Power Taylor?
Ronnie’s 147 time unlikely to be beaten.

Back to Emma’s win. I loved the no fuss, no drama, get on with it approach both ladies showed. No need to bounce he ball 20x+. No need to examine 3-4 balls to pick two you like the look of. Get on with it, play the game and may the best person win.

I thought she had upped her game several levels and I’m thinking logorhytmically here cf Wimbledon. A levels are behind her, she’s hit the gym big time and sorted out whatever psychological issues she may have had in SW19. Her opponent was no push over and played well too but she was too good on the da. Along may it continue.
 

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No need to examine 3-4 balls to pick two you like the look of.

I did love that - especially when she hit the net with a served a few times and the ball came back to her, and she just picked it up and served with it again - so 'no fuss' it was almost shocking, and shows the constant examining and rejecting of balls is probably little more than superstition/routine for other players
 
she’s hit the gym big time and sorted out whatever psychological issues she may have had in SW19.
Ref the Wimbledon breathing issue and withdrawal: Raducanu told Good Morning America: “It was for me more of a physical issue. I think that to win a grand slam you need a lot of mental strength so I think that the resilience part of it speaks for itself. I needed to get through all of it to get through a slam. But physically I’ve got a lot of work to do because I’m still very new to the game.”

I think a classy way of putting Piers Moron in his place.
 
Not exactly women's tennis but has anyone else noted the achievements of Londoner Joe Salisbury? Won both men's and mixed doubles at the US Open to add to his mixed win at the French Open this year. So that's a Brit winning three grand slams in a year and barely a footnote in UK media as far as I've noticed.
I've noticed it and thought it pretty awesome
 
Not exactly women's tennis but has anyone else noted the achievements of Londoner Joe Salisbury? Won both men's and mixed doubles at the US Open to add to his mixed win at the French Open this year. So that's a Brit winning three grand slams in a year and barely a footnote in UK media as far as I've noticed.
I wonder if he was notionally going to be Emma Raducanu's partner before she decided not to enter mixed doubles? I saw from Mark's earlier link that they've played together before (beating Andy Murray and partner in the process).
 
My favourite sportsman was Giant Haystacks, but it would be hard to argue that he has a very high position in the pantheon of sporting greats. He had quite remarkably little in common with Ms. Raducanu.
Wembley, Wimbledon, Twickers, The Oval, Headingley (1981!) - all put into shade by the majesty of Giant Haystacks, Shirley Crabtree (Big Daddy) and co at Huddersfield Sports Centre c. 1982.
 
Not exactly women's tennis but has anyone else noted the achievements of Londoner Joe Salisbury? Won both men's and mixed doubles at the US Open to add to his mixed win at the French Open this year. So that's a Brit winning three grand slams in a year and barely a footnote in UK media as far as I've noticed.
A great achievement by Joe Salisbury but the public's interest in doubles is sadly even less than the media's. If you attend any major tournament which includes a doubles component you can be guaranteed that the matches will attended by a handful of spectators and the semi-finals and finals barely a few more. The only exception that I can think of is the Monaco ATP 1000 because the doubles is played on Sunday directly before the singles final and even then the stands are about 50% full and the racket coming from the restaurant is appallingly loud.
 
My favourite sportsman was Giant Haystacks, but it would be hard to argue that he has a very high position in the pantheon of sporting greats. He had quite remarkably little in common with Ms. Raducanu, though she wouldn't have had much of a chance against one of his tummy jumps.
Tummy Jump!!! He'd bodyslam you for calling it that. :eek:
 
So them both, and Les Kellet and Kendo Nagasaki as a child on holiday in Morecombe. My poor parents - maybe I was over indulged!
That's more my generation (bit earlier than Haystacks and Big Daddy I think). Mick McManus too, and there was another masked one whose name I forget, with a totally black mask. (Ed: The Outlaw - it's all flooding back.)

Saturday afternon on ITV, and occasionally live in the Victoria Hall, Hanley. What a load of crap it was - seems like another lifetime.
 
My Grandad was a great fan of the Saturday afternoon wrestling on ITV. On reflection, I'm convinced that he thought it was all "for real", without any element of being staged. He would sit himself down on a dining chair about 6 feet from the TV and become totally immersed in it (his classic quote was "Did you say that, ref? He grabbed him in the privates!"). There were the likes of Mick McManus, Jackie Pallow, Kendo Nagasaki etc. Kent Walton was the commentator.
 
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