Experience with 2012 Red Burgundies?

[Thom Blach]

In 2015 my effusive TN said needs 2 years. I shall try to leave remaining two bottles alone for a while. Try......Though it's so lovely.
Managed to procure some '14s which arrive tomorrow, along with her VR.

We have agreed to disagree before, Mark, but I think you miss so much drinking them at this age!

 

[Mark Roper]

• 2012 Cecile Tremblay Morey St. Denis Tres Girard - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Morey St. Denis (21/02/2017)
  Ruddy colour; fragrant, raspberries, with a whiff of tar; initially lightweight, this has good depth & weight; a well mannered, extended finish of gravity. Delightful. Still yet to peak. (91 pts.)

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Cecile is a near-genius.

I had the 11 at Christmas which was quite sullen, sounds like the 12 would have been the better option.

 

[Antoine Singer]

Have had quite a few great young 2012s and still happy I bought so much (Isabelle less so).

 

[Mark Carrington]

I had the 11 at Christmas which was quite sullen, sounds like the 12 would have been the better option.

Another '12 which trumps '11 is Joliet Fixin Perrière. Every bottle, to date, has been a delight to drink.

 

[John Simson]

Another '12 which trumps '11 is Joliet Fixin Perrière. Every bottle, to date, has been a delight to drink.

Interesting. Trying to remember whether which vintage I picked up in the BBR sale last year but not recalling it off the top of my head. Think it was the '11? Either way, I'll be keeping my eye out for more of more or less any future vintage if it crops up at affordable price. A delight is the word.

 

[Nick Martin]

Superb 2012 Rousseau Gevrey Cazetiers last November. Shockingly easy to drink.

 

[Keith Prothero]

I don't see a great deal of point in spending vasts sums of money on young Burgundy, when ,it is in its youth (IMHO) ,not a great deal is better than top new world Pinot
Would love actually to put some top young Burgundy against producers such as Drouhin (Oregon),Newton Johnson and Crystallum(SA),Yabby Lake (Aussie) and Dog Point and Felton Road from NZ . Many others of course .
Wonder how many, in a blind tasting ,would correctly identify new and old world . Even if you could,would you enjoy one a lot more than the other ?
Of course I know many of you will not agree but for me most fine Burgundy needs at least 20 years to be anywhere near its best

 

[Antoine Singer]

As long I can still say buy Vosne Brulees for 35€ a bottle VAT included (about 29€/ circa 25£ off tax), I defy people to show me better pinot noir wine from elsewhere for this price.
Since the demise of Bordeaux en primeur, it seems some merchants have compensated by trading Burgundy wine with very high margin.
"Cheap" Burg from less known producers are available and many lesser producers have been improving closing at least a bit of the gap with top producers.

 

[Jonathan Beagle]

I don't see a great deal of point in spending vasts sums of money on young Burgundy, when ,it is in its youth (IMHO) ,not a great deal is better than top new world Pinot
Would love actually to put some top young Burgundy against producers such as Drouhin (Oregon),Newton Johnson and Crystallum(SA),Yabby Lake (Aussie) and Dog Point and Felton Road from NZ . Many others of course .
Wonder how many, in a blind tasting ,would correctly identify new and old world . Even if you could,would you enjoy one a lot more than the other ?
Of course I know many of you will not agree but for me most fine Burgundy needs at least 20 years to be anywhere near its best

This is a very valid point... At the Blind Wine Varsity there was an Otago Pinot and nearly everyone thought it was a ripe vintage from Burgundy.