Good News for Vegans- This Wine Recommendation

Discussion in 'UK Wine Forum' started by Peter May, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. Which vodkas, gins and whiskies are not vegan? I know tequila sometimes comes with a worm.
     
  2. There are hundreds of vegan wines available in the U.K. There are many articles, including one by myself out there, which attempt to explain what makes a wine non-vegan. Most natural wines are vegan, but many wines which are in no way natural are too.
     
  3. Exactly!
     
  4. I bet Yellow Tail isn't vegan. I bet they use gelatine. On the contrary, nearly all traditionally-made wines are vegan. But sadly most British consumers don't like traditional wines, they like modern takes on wine like YT, Barefoot, Blossom Hill and Echo Falls. So they have to choose between vegan wine or their preferred cheap, sugary grape-based concoction.
     
  5. Isn't gelatine now too expensive, Jonathan?
    The reason the cheap, sugary concoctions are popular is because they are designed for alcohol abusers, taken as 'destressing' alcohol delivery systems rather than at the table. The structure of proper wines more or less prohibits their being glugged down without food. I am rather appalled by the whole business, haven't they heard of gin?
     
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  6. According to their website "Some milk and egg products are used in the fining process of the wine, but are removed before bottling."

    Isn't this true of (more or less) all wine? I suppose that hardcore vegans would animal-derived findings as unacceptable but the majority just don't care enough.
     
  7. Is n't Burgundy Vegan?
     
  8. No it's not true of all wine. New EU directives state that their use has to be on the label. Claiming that it is all removed before bottling doesn't get around that. Vegan means without the use of any animal products. So YT isn't vegan. Labelling wine
     
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  9. Allegedly Musar(red) is vegan so Alexj should be good for a few years.
     
  10. YT makes a distinction between red and white winemaking. Their red wines are vegan, their white are not, as outlined here.

    I would argue the correct use of fining agents (including animal products) can help achieve lots of important goals mostly by improving yield of saleable wine per hectare and reducing waste (and associated environmental cost).
     
  11. Tony - that third party source only refers to gelatin as a fining agent. Under allergens in the FAQ on the yellowtail website, it refers to use of milk and eggs as fining agents.

    The regulations referenced by Jonathan require allergen disclosure if milk or egg residues are greater than 0.25 milligrams per litre*. That's something like a tenth of the weight of an ant.

    (*The guidance on the web page refers to disclosure if milk or are used; the detailed guidance refers to the concentration threshold)
     
  12. So Vegan looks like a religion. A lot of products are banned which means zero and 0.01% content is unacceptable. Am I correct?
    I thought it was a diet kind of things that you avoid eating some products (either to protect the planet ...)
     
  13. I imagine that long-standing vegans and vegetarians are reasonably pragmatic. It is the new converts who are most zealously purist, aided and abetted by those with a commercial or campaigning interest.
     
  14. In the same FAQ, they cover egg, milk and fish. Company emails (shown on Barnivore) indicate no gelatine is used on red, only on Rose and white.

    Though I guess they could spell it specifically on the website, but its pretty clear the YT red is vegan (not that I am going to be drinky any, anytime soon).

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  15. Not just diet. Vegans avoid any animal derived products

    From Vegan Society website Definition of veganism

    one thing all vegans have in common is a plant-based diet avoiding all animal foods such as meat (including fish, shellfish and insects), dairy, eggs and honey - as well as products like leather and any tested on animals.
    History

    Although the vegan diet was defined early on in The Vegan Society's beginnings in 1944, it was as late as 1949 before Leslie J Cross pointed out that the society lacked a definition of veganism. He suggested “[t]he principle of the emancipation of animals from exploitation by man”. This is later clarified as “to seek an end to the use of animals by man for food, commodities, work, hunting, vivisection, and by all other uses involving exploitation of animal life by man”.
     

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