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How many people are supposed to be isolating in Britain today? If there are half a million who are positive, and each has 6 contacts who should be isolating *, then I guess we just cannot be knocking on 3 million doors every day for a fortnight to check they are doing so. I guess that's what I meant by Resources, rather than money.
* Of course a small fraction of contacts are actually being traced and contacted currently so its probably nothing like 3 million, but if the system was working, those millions would need to be monitored in some way.
Some checking could be done by phone. We have plenty of human resources too. Council workers? Military? Volunteers? Furloughed workers? I think the problem is not so much resources as our inability to get ourselves organized.How many people are supposed to be isolating in Britain today? If there are half a million who are positive, and each has 6 contacts who should be isolating *, then I guess we just cannot be knocking on 3 million doors every day for a fortnight to check they are doing so. I guess that's what I meant by Resources, rather than money.
Ed,
I'm amazed that you can take a point like mine about fines working in Australia and then totally disregard the fact that they worked there. You cone up with counter arguments, like poor people don't care about fines, the prison's are full, courts are affected by social distancing laws and so on without thinking about the initial argument you are fighting against.
Seriously, do you think Australia doesn't have to contend with the same issues? They do. They have these issues, too. Yet the fine system worked. Yes it may take longer and be more problematic here, but we don't live in a parallel universe where what happens in other countries has no bearing on what it's possible here.
You really don't want to even consider that lockdown might be workable, do you?
That makes me a fool for trying to argue with you.![]()
Lockdowns have worked in countries with wide scale compliance and/or effective Testing and Tracing systems. We have neither. Until someone gets a handle on the latter, we’re going around in circles for ever more. There should be a Minister directly responsible for delivering this single task. Not the telephone lady.
Kids aren’t put off from holding raves in warehouses by fines or threat of jail, as they know policing numbers work in their favour. Look at illegal drug use for reference. There simply aren’t enough officers to take them on. The same applies for anyone planning a Xmas lunch for 20. No one is in a position to stop them.
Why are the French more compliant than the Brits?
It can’t just be because of the mandatory attestations.
I think this is an excellent article, which mainly deals with aerosol transmission of Covid - an aspect that I think needs more attention
https://english.elpais.com/society/...the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.htm
I would contend that this is only poorly reflected in our rules.
Last week while buying some Adblue in a petrol station in Burgundy, I had to experience the owner being very rude to me for wearing a mask in his shop. Not necessarily representative, but there are idiots everywhere.Why are the French more compliant than the Brits?
Last week while buying some Adblue in a petrol station in Burgundy, I had to experience the owner being very rude to me for wearing a mask in his shop. Not necessarily representative, but there are idiots everywhere.
At around 25,000 new cases today plus their contacts and the contacts of those contacts, that's possibly 2.5 million interviews needed every day.
Cheers. Now fixed - somehow the "l" of "html" got lost in the copy and paste.Link not working Steve
Maybe he doesn’t like diesel drivers?Last week while buying some Adblue in a petrol station in Burgundy, I had to experience the owner being very rude to me for wearing a mask in his shop. Not necessarily representative, but there are idiots everywhere.
Not just self-isolation, but other Covid regs too. It's not easy.Many people breaking self-isolation rules simply don't believe they are posing a risk. How can we break that?
Exactly - drink-driving is a good analogy.Not just self-isolation, but other Covid regs too. It's not easy.
Back in the 70s it was the same with drink-driving - many people pushed the law to the limit, and beyond. I guess it is a question of convincing a critical mass of people, which can then exert peer pressure. Call it education or propaganda according to your views, but that is the way to do it.
Back in the 70s it was the same with drink-driving - many people pushed the law to the limit, and beyond. I guess it is a question of convincing a critical mass of people, which can then exert peer pressure. Call it education or propaganda according to your views, but that is the way to do it..