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- London and Boston
Agreed - there are no end user benefits.Smart metering of energy and water has been a total fiasco.
Agreed - there are no end user benefits.Smart metering of energy and water has been a total fiasco.
Other than cheaper electricity? My understanding is that that some of the better tariffs (eg. I'm on Intelligent Octopus) wouldn't be possible without "smart" metering (by which I mean readings every 30 minutes).Agreed - there are no end user benefits.
Well, my gas supplier has never offered any such deals. My electricity remains on a standard meter. And time based rates were available pre smart meters - Economy 7 anyone?Other than cheaper electricity? My understanding is that that some of the better tariffs (eg. I'm on Intelligent Octopus) wouldn't be possible without "smart" metering (by which I mean readings every 30 minutes).
Complete diss array across the market.I can understand the "see" bit - for your own sense of audit, but why can't they access that data remotely?
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Alex you've bought into the BS.Other than cheaper electricity? My understanding is that that some of the better tariffs (eg. I'm on Intelligent Octopus) wouldn't be possible without "smart" metering (by which I mean readings every 30 minutes).
Huh? It makes perfect sense to me that load on the grid should be spread evenly. Most of these smart tariffs are inducements to get customers to play ball (eg charge their cars/batteries in the small hours). Are you saying that we should all be able to use as much electricity as we like at any time we like for fixed (low) cost?Alex you've bought into the BS.
They create the parameters of tariff phasing.
Economy 7 is a lot simpler than Intelligent Octopus or Agile!Well, my gas supplier has never offered any such deals. My electricity remains on a standard meter. And time based rates were available pre smart meters - Economy 7 anyone?
No I am saying that the electricity coming out of the supply is the same at any time of the day.Huh? It makes perfect sense to me that load on the grid should be spread evenly. Most of these smart tariffs are inducements to get customers to play ball (eg charge their cars/batteries in the small hours). Are you saying that we should all be able to use as much electricity as we like at any time we like for fixed (low) cost?
Then why do I have a gas smart meter? Apart from the supplier benefit of remote readings it offers me nothing, since I already consume gas as responsibly as is reasonable.Gas is a red herring here.
I've never heard of one of those, but we don't have gas. I assume that really is a case of no real benefit to consumer (other than not having to submit readings).Then why do I have a gas smart meter? Apart from the supplier benefit of remote readings it offers me nothing, since I already consume gas as responsibly as is reasonable.
I haven't had my meters read for about twelve years.Presumably it saves the supplier money in not having a human come to your house.
They come every six months where we live and make a big fuss if you happen to be out. (Gas. Electricity is linked in, if not ‘smart’).I haven't had my meters read for about twelve years.
I usually take the scissors to such bags!Takeaway emporia that tie the handles of white plastic bags together. Untying requires a great deal of patience when the grilled meats within are calling.
Don’t know whether to like or laugh! We’ve all done it though….Leaving the salt out of the bread. It doesn't happen often but it is quiite remarkable what a terrible omission it is, the loaf smells of cardboard in the oven and scarcely rises at all. I'd better make another, I suppose.
Reminds me of the very first meal during my first trip to Tuscany and being served the local salt-free bread. I assumed at first that they had forgotten to add it.Leaving the salt out of the bread. It doesn't happen often but it is quiite remarkable what a terrible omission it is, the loaf smells of cardboard in the oven and scarcely rises at all. I'd better make another, I suppose.
Lord no. Central Italians are still protesting the imposition of the roman salt tax. You have to ask for pane salata.Reminds me of the very first meal during my first trip to Tuscany and being served the local salt-free bread. I assumed at first that they had forgotten to add it.