The perfect Negroni

Recently bought this blood orange gin, which it turns out makes an excellent Negroni in the classic 1:1:1 ratio with Campari and Antica Formula:

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I’ve been using this gin in my Negroni recipe for a long time, along with Cocchi Rosa and Aperol (it makes a less bitter Negroni), and sometimes with Campari.

I picked up some Select (which is halfway between Campari and Aperol in terms of bitterness) in Venice recently so am looking forward to experimenting with that.
 
Ok...so this sounds like bad parenting.... but im hopefully amongst friends. My 15 year old is obsessed with Nergroni - loves the smell of it. I of course wont let him drink one - just make them. Anyway..... today I made him a "Negroni zero" with 0.0% Tanquery and Maritini Torino non-alcohol - with a splash of Campari. I have to say it is quite decent - so much so that I'll probably veer toward these over the summer.
 
Ok...so this sounds like bad parenting.... but im hopefully amongst friends. My 15 year old is obsessed with Nergroni - loves the smell of it. I of course wont let him drink one - just make them. Anyway..... today I made him a "Negroni zero" with 0.0% Tanquery and Maritini Torino non-alcohol - with a splash of Campari. I have to say it is quite decent - so much so that I'll probably veer toward these over the summer.
I fear my bad parenting was worse, my daughter was also keen on Negronis as a teenager and I have never been one to lay down the law, the idea of adults knowing better not altogether having been borne out by my experience of the world. Along with most of her friends she now barely touches alcoholic drinks, at least by the standards of my generation.
 
Dear Thom,
Let's see if this variant will help return your appetite for Negroni. :p


Between 1917 and 1920, it all starts from the Caffè Casoni in Via de' Tornabuoni 83, in a lively and cosmopolitan Florence.
Count Negroni asked Fosco Scarselli, Caffè Casoni's barman, to beef up his "Milano-Torino" (red vermouth and bitter better known as Americano, in honour of boxer Primo Carnera) with gin.

To the "new" Americano, the count had a half slice of orange added, so as not to confuse his aperitif with that of other patrons of the café.

From this fusion (1/3 red vermouth - 1/3 bitter - 1/3 gin and a half slice of orange) was born what was christened "the Americano in the manner of Count Negroni" later simplified to "Negroni."
The present speaks of NEGRONI SVEGLIATO, a reinterpretation, or twist of the original recipe.

The variation consists of a coffee vermouth infusion (I used Lavazza Miscela Rossa).

This version speaks of Italian traditionalism, and of what is an unquestioned habit of so many Italians, coffee time.

Coffee is an elusive moment at times, as at times, a moment of sharing, I love this versatility, which does not focus exclusively on aromaticity but says so much more.


NEGRONI SVEGLIATO is the aperitif or it is simple after dinner.

30 ml Gin

20 ml Bitter

30 ml Coffee infused vermouth.

Technique : Throwing, mix all ingredients, chilling them well (oxygenating)

Presentation: Mocha and coffee or a Cappuccino cup.
Lorne in Pimlico serves a delicious “coffee negroni” as a digestif. I presume it is this, but it’s served in a negroni glass rather than a coffee cup. I had assumed coffee liqueur was added to the mix, but I’m not sure. It’s a fantastic drink.
 
Funnily enough, I ordered an Americano this week in a cocktail bar in Boston and was served a coffee. That caused a few moments of amusement. As I pointed out to them, it was not Starbucks.
My sister ordered an Americano in a bar/cafe in France last summer - and the proprietor jokingly said are you sure at this time of day ? Explaining to her that cafe allonge might be a safer term to use in France.
 
Following a couple of visits to Cornus I am firmly back into the Negroni habit.
The chap there does a ‘Clarified Coffee Negroni.’
I must declare that I never ever drink coffee, but this drink seems somehow elevated by its inclusion.
Better as an after dinner treat rather than before I think.

I have resurrected this thread as I was researching what components to source to try making standard Negronis for myself.
I have pretty much decided that I am going to get a diamond tumbler from the Richard Brendon outlet sale before midnight and we have Gin aplenty.
But I needed to refresh my knowledge bank around the other components.
Any up to the minute advice welcomed.
 
Following a couple of visits to Cornus I am firmly back into the Negroni habit.
The chap there does a ‘Clarified Coffee Negroni.’
I must declare that I never ever drink coffee, but this drink seems somehow elevated by its inclusion.
Better as an after dinner treat rather than before I think.

I have resurrected this thread as I was researching what components to source to try making standard Negronis for myself.
I have pretty much decided that I am going to get a diamond tumbler from the Richard Brendon outlet sale before midnight and we have Gin aplenty.
But I needed to refresh my knowledge bank around the other components.
Any up to the minute advice welcomed.
I would start super classic Ray - with Antica Formula and Campari. I think 1:1:1 for these cold winter days, with a big slice of orange. Each “1” obviously being 50ml.

Very large, clear, ice cube (Don Reid method) mandatory.

Then seek to adjust variables from there, I think Carpano aromatic bitters and Punt e mes being the logical next steps.
 
As an educational exercise to begin with, I would suggest you make 2 Negronis, both in the classic 1:1:1 ratio. Use the same gin and Campari in both, but do 1 with Antica Formula and 1 with Punt E Mes. Orange (zest or slice) for garnish. You then have the 2 ends of the Vermouth spectrum to compare - intensely spicy (Antica) and fruity (Punt). From there you can begin to experiment according to your preference.

Ensure the gin is not too strong - 40% if possible. The high strength ones kill it, and you...
 
As an educational exercise to begin with, I would suggest you make 2 Negronis, both in the classic 1:1:1 ratio. Use the same gin and Campari in both, but do 1 with Antica Formula and 1 with Punt E Mes. Orange (zest or slice) for garnish. You then have the 2 ends of the Vermouth spectrum to compare - intensely spicy (Antica) and fruity (Punt). From there you can begin to experiment according to your preference.

Ensure the gin is not too strong - 40% if possible. The high strength ones kill it, and you...
So
A hundred pounds later I have on the way.
Richard Brendon tumbler
Campari
Punt E Mes
Antica Formula
I trust this meets with Oliver's NFA directive.
As to Gins
Because Debbi and I are known to like GnT we are awash with gift bottles of straight London from clients and friends.
I shall tell Debbi that my motivation is to put these gifts to use :)
 
Just chippin' in. The 1:1:1 ratio is a modern myth. It is indeed the recommended ration but it is equivalent of tendering the vines and vinify the grapes always in the same way regardless of the vintage. It is an aspiration for those who wants to show the true value of the soil but; let's face it, it never happens.

Depending when you drink AND your bitter/vermouth, you may want to adapt a little the recipe. I am not calling for a 2:1:1 or 4:2:1 ratios but most bar tenders skew the ratio towards gin and vermouth (in this order) and away from bitter. By most bartenders, I mean mixologists around London yet again it depends on the ingredients and time of day. Before dinner you may want to tone down the gin and have more vermouth (unless it is Antica Formula whose vanilla I find overpowering) and in the summer, maybe, add more bitter (tempered by some orange bitters angostura?). In my experience, aromatics of delicate gins (i.e. lightly flavoured vodkas) are lost in a Negroni whatever ratio you use.

Just my 2c.
 
Some excellent advice in this thread. It should always be remembered that the most important ingredient in any mixed drink is pedantry.
I think even more than I did a couple of years ago that the Americano is a better and more refreshing drink, the alcohol in the gin somehow makes the Negroni too heavy for aperitif purposes-though the use of dry white vermouth, to make a Cardinale rather than a Negroni, really is an improvement.
 
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