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And yet Australia has won the World test Championship, retained the Ashes and won the World Cup all in the space of 6 months..
They're (very) professional cricketers, and this is the ultimate demonstration of professionalism. All the little things matter.
I still think they faded badly in the latter part of the Ashes series, but then Ponting apparently has a great statistical record as captain and he managed to lose the Ashes three times! I doubt anyone could have done better than Cummins over the last year.
 
And yet Australia has won the World test Championship, retained the Ashes and won the World Cup all in the space of 6 months..
I didn’t suggest for one second that Australia were not a remarkable test team, nor was I attempting to belittle the achievement in this tournament. Quite the opposite. My point was that they were clearly not the top ranked team, didn’t on paper, have the “best” personnel, showed little early in the tournament, but because they were so well organised and have a calm leader went on to achieve something extraordinary.
 
Australia are a remarkable side , and winning this tournament and especially this match , against India at home with 100,000 plus supporters , is a special performance.
I absolutely agree with this.

You may think Mark that Australia are the 4th best team in the world,
I actually said that I thought that coming into this tournament they were the 3rd or 4th best side (and for the avoidance of doubt - only in this format ie. ODI). They were officially ranked 2nd, just a couple of points ahead of SA and Pakistan, with NZ a couple of points further behind. India were a long way ahead in the BCCI, sorry ICC, rankings and validated that ranking right throughout the tournament. They also came into the tournament off the back of three defeats in a row against SA and a 2-1 defeat by India. We can argue the toss, but I don’t think it’s an indefensible opinion.

but I would not bet against them losing any one to one match up.
Not even SA? 18 matches, 15 defeats for Australia? Wouldn’t have bought too many cases of Mouton ‘86 with your winnings!

Now if it were SA in a WC semi final I might be piling in myself……

Oh and to say that because Australia have won six WC’s this is a remarkable team is a bit of a stretch. That’s surely a little like saying England are currently a remarkable team because they won the ‘66 WC. Only two of this team were in the 2015 team and none of them (self-evidently) were in any of the previous four teams. As a nation we have a great cricketing DNA and a system that seems to produce good tournament sides, but each team is its own entity.
 
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These days, I don't follow cricket closely enough to say anything particularly insightful, but it seems to me that this Australian team has done what so many Australian sporting teams have done over the years, which is to grind out a victory through sheer force of will (with a decent sprinkling of talent thrown in), despite the odds seemingly being stacked against them. Yep, they got away with "one or two players doing something special each time and the others hardly contributing", all the way through to the point where they were standing on the podium for the sixth time in ten World Cups (no other country has won more than two). India were apparently by far the "better side", but they still lost and I would argue that it's that grit and determination that has characterised so many Australian sporting sides that did for them in the end. Obviously this is a UK-based forum, so there's an underlying bias at work (and, yes, I'm an Australian channelling my own underlying bias), but I still find it slightly baffling that Glenn Maxwell's completely extraordinary back-to-back innings were dismissed with a sardonic remark or two and little else. Apparently during a big chunk of his double century he was in so much pain he couldn't even move his feet when he was facing a delivery. But good on him and good on the rest of the team for producing an incredible series of performances after a very shaky start and being there to lift the trophy at the end.
I watched Maxwell’s innings in its entirety. Excruciating to watch early and even more later, but for different reasons. I still have a vision of him on the ground at the bowler’s end, lying on the floor his whole body in uncontrolled spasm. Some parts of his innings were unbelievable in terms of technical ability, some just plain comedic. Throughout, he was all smiles, enjoying the fun of the ride. Never truly understood “The Big Show” moniker until last week.
 
Great final. Well done Australia and very deserving on performances at the knockout end of things. The tournament came good in the end. Certainly needs a rethink re format as it dragged on way too long.
 
eam is a bit of a stretch. That’s surely a little like saying England are currently a remarkable team because they won the ‘66 WC. Only two of this team were in the 2015 team and none of them (self-evidently) were in any of the previous four teams. As a nation we have a great cricketing DNA and a system that seems to produce good tour
True although I did of course mean the nation of Australia and not this particular team .
 
Not sure you can even buy it anymore Ed!

For those who don’t know Chateau Tanunda was the name of the winery, but it was actually the brandy that made the reputation……
 
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